Same with baki and yuijro
That's not a long chain scale tho.
The number 1 thing naruto supporters usually do, is give their character many opportunities to do something while the other character does nothing until he's beaten...
That's not entirely true but our character actually has a wincon that makes this possible, aka their speed which gives them the upperhand to move before another character can comprehend. So it's not baseless as you make it out to be, but infact a nitpick on a general consensus.
not true, he can still use it on people physically stronger than him, even if for a moment, he can get deadly openings and basically one shot him
if it's just normal fear hax it also isn't working on a jounin.
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Simply can move out of his line of sight and easily time his approach to get in close, stop acting like the ninja is some sort of automatic omnidirectional bomb... He ain't that
He doesn't have the speed to move before sandy boi can do his thing lmao. Are you ignoring the chain scale arguments being presented? Sandy boi moves/acts faster in combat than baki would based on physical stats alone. Hanma would need the speed to instantly move start move out the line of sight (or do any action at all infact) and he's not getting close to sandy boi to harm him. He's more of a swordstyle/ ranged kinda guy, he isn't letting baki get close to him and start beating down on him especially with his superior movement speed. Any action sandy boi does first will always be faster than hanma because of his speed. His starting move has range aswell, even if baki supposedly "went invisible", he'd still be hit by the explosion.
Your assuming first that baki doesn't counter him before he can get his explosives off, 2x again ain't something impressive
Baki was capable of fighting pickle whos 200 kg while baki is 76 kg which is a 2.63157894737x difference in weight and power, he was able to overcome the damages from him and get even stronger mid battle
1. Sandy boi does his movs faster than baki before baki can act as he's massively faster. Baki has no counter to that and he wouldn't pull a speed amp as a first move unless he had prior knowledge which he doesn't. You're ignoring physical stats here for hanma's sake to replace with skill when their statistics are incredibly uneven.
2. I don't understand distributing how much they weight matter here. Weight has more ro do with LS (These guys have literal class M LS so 200kg ain't shit), nor does that relate to AP. A guy fighting a massive giant and winning doesn't mean they're 200x their strength especially if they have incredibly high LS and scale in the same tier. Againt you're ignoring physical statistics and the fact that gaki won't get to use his skill until he gets into physical contact with his opponent lol.
attack baki with baki will simply overcome it or use it to his advantage which he can do by utilizing
Aiki
If he tries to used ranged weaponry, baki can redirect it back with insane timing and precision skills
Baki doesn't have resistance to explosion manipulation. The explosions from these bombs will hurt baki even if it's to a bruise or so. These guys are not relative in AP so there's no tanking argument, one is stronger than the other by 2x. You can say he'll overcome it but he'll still be bruised no matter what. He's also not redirecting a literal explosion, please stop using this skill argument to defend nonsensical takes.
Yes it does... To completely move your body out of the way you'd need to accelerate alot, while baki is able to go max speed nearly instantly
There's a reason why boxers use predictions to move out of the way from a punch beforehand since it acelarates much faster than you even tho it's a small target to evade which basically makes it nearly impossible for you to dodge and get away
1. These guys automatically have HHS+ speed. there's no acceleration period. And these guys are actively fighting one another so no offguard attacks will be made for one to accelerate to dodge said attack. From the moment they move they'll be HHS+. If a character is stated to need to accelerate to said speeds (shinra for example), then they need to accelerate.
2. It takes more energy to accelerate on a full sprint than react to simple things around you even at last minute, so yes it takes time to accelerate but it depends on what you need to do. It's far easier to accelerate yourself to react to an incoming pen being flung at you than run from point a to b. Reactions accelerate your speed almost instantly as opposed to traveling so that argument is kinda null. The fact that aswell your reactions will always be greater than your movement speed.
Does not matter how fast your reactions are if your body can't physically move out of the way fast enough, especially when the technique is used unexpectedly
ok so It's not like baki has large size 5 which would make escaping impossible for sandy boi..... Nor is baki faster than sandy boi to be suprise attacking him. Sandy boi has HHS+ stats massively unquantifably higher above mach 58 due to chain scaling. Sandy Boi will throw projectiles the moment they start fighting and since he can do movemens faster than baki, baki wouldhave a late start. it's as simple as it gets, stop ignoring the physical difference between these characters will "skill" which onky works in a physical altercation, baki can't use skill to dodge a explosion that covers tens of meters, he can survive but he'll be hurt giving sandy boi a advantage in physical state. Stop acting like baki is some ultimate sheild that defies the laws of AP and Speed lol.
Our arguments should now be what baki does after he takes the explosion as its clear he can't escape it.
What near blitz chain are you even talking about?
Ninja baki scales to
Mach 58.338403207 while baki scales to Mach 78
Baki is the one with the big speed advantage +
combined with his amps and it will be even a bigger gap, with also better agility and no wasted movement will also widen the gap even more
Baki can instantly make the ninja go unconscious even if he is many times stronger than him
1. You ignored the chain scale argument. Good job, it was presented by slendy, the chain scale he presented evens out and even exceeds a mere 1.33 times speed difference and i doubt baki's techniques can even that out unless it's near blitz tier increase.
2. 1.33 speed advantage now a big speed advantage but a 2x AP difference with both characters isn't?? What type of logic is this? But anyway, As I've stated, Sandy boi isn't really a physical fighter but a ranged one especially against a person who he doesn't know what jutsu they use. He'll keep distance, but as you've said baki can make himself invisible so baki might be able to sneak sandy boi and beat him up until hes knocked out.
Baki can utilize timings insanely well also, being able to time it
to where your brain haven't even understood what's happened yet
Wouldn't this only work against a relative opponent. We're talking about a character with massively higher speed hence higher processing speed. Would it work on an opponent with a high chain scale?
Baki scans are so hard and annoying to use 
Baki is easily winning this via targeting his weak points and via his movement and timings making the ninja unable to do anything whenever baki gets close enough
Above the concept of speed fr.
Hanma can probably close the distance by going invisible after taking explosions, as I've stated sandy will keep his distance albeit inevitable against baki's invisibility so im sticking to hanma winning or neutral
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