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But his time resistance is via anti magic in this case so it only works against MagicHe seperately resists time hax too I think.
His spatial one is when he enters Black Asta
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But his time resistance is via anti magic in this case so it only works against MagicHe seperately resists time hax too I think.
Alr so dura neg works fine against AstaBut his time resistance is via anti magic in this case so it only works against Magic
His spatial one is when he enters Black Asta
Alright so my personal conclusion for now is that reid is very easily able to handle Astas Zettan via skill alone and manàges to cut him.
No, the range of his strikes is just tens of kilometres. He does not ignore distance otherwise that would be infinite speed.
He'd see white vectors indicating the trajectory of the attack. If it's too large of an attack to be blocked then he cuts through it. And blocking an attack with the sword would not lead to being disarmed as he is able to harmlessly transfer force out of his body through the soles of his feet.
Reid's hax is based in space, time, and concepts. Asta resists space and time hax, so if you disagree that Reid can conceptually destroy what he cuts (as stated in the Novel) then Reid has no way to harm Asta and it becomes a stomp.
We don't really see him fight people stronger than him so no, there's no example of him transfering the force of an attack with greater ap. All there is are statements that "blunt force attacks" eg. punches, kicks, clubs, are useless against him. But we do know that the Sword at least is indestructable even in the face of ridiculous dura neg hax.If the initial attack is blocked then you have to prove that Reid can transfer the force of attacks many times stronger than him harmlessly through the soles of his feet.
There is no explicit "anti-magic energy" ofc in Re:Zero, but there is two things that might be similar:I am aware that Reid can cut things that can not be cut, like light, black holes, or space time, but you have to prove that Reid is capable of cutting Anti Magic energy. Its not even hax-based; it's skill-based, so his greatest enemy here will be NLF.
“Hah? Don’t be makin’ me laugh, ya prick. Swingin’ at the best angle, with the best speed, with the best feelin’, in the best way―― Be chopsticks or whatever, there’s nothin’ it can’t cut.”
“The hell, it’s just air. Somethin’ like air’s everywhere, as if it’d stop me.”
With just a single swing of his chopsticks, Reid broke through that immense magic with extreme easiness.
A carefree attitude as if, quite literally, slashing through air―― no, for him, it truly was exactly that. He did not have the nature of taking roundabouts around something which he was capable of doing and then boasting about it.
He had slashed the air, so that was his explanation. That was all there was to it.
What is the composition of anti-magic energy?This is not about Asta's resistance, this is about Reid's ability to cut things. Reid is up against a supernatural energy that is largely unknown to both Black Clover verse and Re: Zero aside from the fact that it is the enemy of magic. Simply put, A Zetten is any regular magic attack delivered at enhanced speeds and strength. Asta was able to do this with Anti Magic and now all of his attacks, including ranged ones, can be amped with Zetten. So an Anti Magic ranged slash is up against Reid here.
I am aware that Reid can cut things that can not be cut, like light, black holes, or space time, but you have to prove that Reid is capable of cutting Anti Magic energy. Its not even hax-based; it's skill-based, so his greatest enemy here will be NLF.
ReZero's precog is not skill based. Otherwise you wouldn't get things like Grimm detecting something is wrong at the Astrea manor from all the way across the capitol.I have no problem with Reid being superior to Asta skill wise. I do have a problem with the concept cutting stuff being used on Asta because someone brought to my attention that his opponents have survived a cut from Reid but I won’t go into that rabbit hole rn.
Asta’s presence (probably by elevating fight or flight response idk) causes those with battle instincts to rush towards him for an attack. Reid in character goes for melee attacks with his weapon so this is what is most likely going to happen. Reid’s movement speed is lower than his combat speed, and Asta has a type of precognition that is dissimilar to skill based precog in Re:Zero according to @Tatsumi504 who is very knowledgeable on both. so Asta will easily anticipate Reid going in for an attack.
Asta will then deploy Zetten in such a way that Reid cannot dodge. Reid’s skill based precog is probably useless against those who are completely stationary (unless proven the white lines that show up come from stationary targets) but regardless the attack will be too fast to aim dodge.
This is literally Ki from Black CloverI would also note Sword Saints have 2 kinds of precog, one where they can predict what you are going to do just from the stance you take, from where your eyes are trained, and from the very air that hangs above you, i would say this is standard stuff we have seen from people like Wilhelm, though you could argue Theresia's precog>Wilhelm, due to a Sword Saint's nature of being impossible to ever match.
The other one is seeing, reading, and feeling the paths of hostility raining down on them, basically if you are hostile to them, they will know what exactly you're going to do just based on that.
As the name suggest: It's just an energy that negates magic born from negative thoughts, other than that there is really nothing so special and uniqueness about it that would make someone say "You would need a proof that this dude can interact with this kind of energy too" Imo the only way Asta could counter Reid ability to cut anything is by using his ability to "I choose what i wants to cut" it's an ability that only attack what it wants to cut, meaning anything n everything besides it's target is getting completely ignore.What is the composition of anti-magic energy?
Agreed.As the name suggest: It's just an energy that negates magic born from negative thoughts, other than that there is really nothing so special and uniqueness about it that would make someone say "You would need a proof that this dude can interact with this kind of energy too" Imo the only way Asta could counter Reid ability to cut anything is by using his ability to "I choose what i wants to cut" it's an ability that only attack what it wants to cut, meaning anything n everything besides it's target is getting completely ignore.
Even if we take Ram's bullshit feat non-literally, and assume it's a form of precog, it's still a feat that shows being fast enough to normally blitz doesn't seem to be enough to hit those with far greater combat skill.
Ram did that while she had zero mana to boost her stats beyond human level, but even if she had her horn as an adult and thus became the Oni God, capable of absorbing an utilising as much mana as she needs once more- who is at least the 5th strongest character in the verse- Reid would still easily behead her according to WoG.
Reid is so far beyond everyone else in skill that the only characters he can't just instantly behead are Reinhard (the #1 in the whole verse), Volcanica (who he can still beat according to lore) and Satella (who is immortal).
As well as this, Swordsmen grow stronger when faced with a stronger opponent and then grow even stronger and faster again when faced with death. Wilhelm- who was merely planting a single foot on the first step on the stairway to Reid's heavenly skill- was able to massively boost his speed from superspeed, to hyperspeed, to the speed of god, to transcending the concept of steel, in order to counter a certain-death attack from multiple directions.
As well as this, Swordsmen grow stronger when faced with a stronger opponent and then grow even stronger and faster again when faced with death. Wilhelm- who was merely planting a single foot on the first step on the stairway to Reid's heavenly skill- was able to massively boost his speed from superspeed, to hyperspeed, to the speed of god, to transcending the concept of steel, in order to counter a certain-death attack from multiple directions.
As the name suggest: It's just an energy that negates magic born from negative thoughts, other than that there is really nothing so special and uniqueness about it that would make someone say "You would need a proof that this dude can interact with this kind of energy too" Imo the only way Asta could counter Reid ability to cut anything is by using his ability to "I choose what i wants to cut" it's an ability that only attack what it wants to cut, meaning anything n everything besides it's target is getting completely ignore.
Really? Huh.Wtf are these skill based stat amps??? Our standards don’t allow unknown amps to trump actual mult
That's complety NFL trought.As the name suggest: It's just an energy that negates magic born from negative thoughts, other than that there is really nothing so special and uniqueness about it that would make someone say "You would need a proof that this dude can interact with this kind of energy too" Imo the only way Asta could counter Reid ability to cut anything is by using his ability to "I choose what i wants to cut" it's an ability that only attack what it wants to cut, meaning anything n everything besides it's target is getting completely ignore.
Zetten is at minimun x20 his combat speedReally? Huh.
How good is Asta speed amp?
They do that because of a mana though, which she was completely out of. It's not like humans just randomly display superhuman stats just because. It's not Vinland Saga.Humans can display superhuman characteristics in the verse still. So it’s no surprise she could physically avoid all of them despite their speed
So Ram should't really be able to overcame the speed disvantage of 130x trought skill, that's pshycally Impossible.They do that because of a mana though, which she was completely out of. It's not like humans just randomly display superhuman stats just because. It's not Vinland Saga.
Transformations are between x2 and x4 based on "several times" or "many times" bullshit that it depends of what do you want to accept
The text does both explicitly state that Ram became "as frail as her form suggested" i.e a regular 18 year old girl, while Garfiel explicitly surpasses the speed of sound in the text.
I can´t believe we reached the conclusion that we said yesterday on discordokay then
so can we deem this as a mismatch (hax vs speed) or? Keep going?
Let Satella change the OP, and then we can continue.okay then
so can we deem this as a mismatch (hax vs speed) or? Keep going?
There are a lot of things that are physically impossible in fiction. They still happen.So Ram should't really be able to overcame the speed disvantage of 130x trought skill, that's pshycally Impossible.
Like finding a girlfriend?There are a lot of things that are physically impossible in fiction. They still happen.
I din't deny that It happen, just that since is Impossible for her to do that, that's most probally a outlier.There are a lot of things that are physically impossible in fiction. They still happen.
There are a lot of things that are physically impossible in fiction. They still happen.
Something being physically impossible does not mean it's an outlier. Otherwise literally every example of a character being faster than light would be on that page.With this logic this site wouldn’t have an outlier page.
Something being physically impossible does not mean it's an outlier. Otherwise literally every example of a character being faster than light would be on that page.
You example have nothing to do with a outlier.Something being physically impossible does not mean it's an outlier. Otherwise literally every example of a character being faster than light would be on that page.
I mean there are several examples in fiction of characters dodging things they shouldn't be able to percieve
but that's neither here nor there.
This thread seems to have came to the decision that this is a mismatch for several reasons, and further discussion on other topics should be for more appropriate threads.
I mean there are several examples in fiction of characters dodging things they shouldn't be able to percieve, but that's neither here nor there.