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Low 1c Guilty Gear...
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Backyard cosmology revision
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Blazblue still stomps, so.
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Smurf Hax scalling chain
Ouroubouros>Pi>Pi>Pi>Pi>Pi>Pi>Pi>Pi>Infinity>Boundary Smurfmen passively fear haxes the Backyard beyond Low 1C repair and High Godly Regeneration and infinity smurf scalling chains to that being negated.
Maybe one day GG will catch up.
Ouroubouros>Pi>Pi>Pi>Pi>Pi>Pi>Pi>Pi>Infinity>Boundary Smurfmen passively fear haxes the Backyard beyond Low 1C repair and High Godly Regeneration and infinity smurf scalling chains to that being negated.
Maybe one day GG will catch up.
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Sure, whatever you say.
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Unless I was getting guilty gear into 7-D for just baseline 1-C I wouldn't throw guilty gear anywhere near that smurf house.
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If it helps, it seems the Backyard is also described as being a higher dimensional world here too and the whole "information" thing going on.
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Yeah, that's why we say solid Low 1-C, but Ultima still thinks possibly, but I think the problem is that at one point it says that the Backyard is the mechanism which this information is conveyed, but that's referring to magic theory, and how all information stems from the Backyard.
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Ah.
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Was wrong here, but I fixed it up over discord. Ultima should comment soon.
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Let's save all that stuff for when Strive actually comes out. For now, we're waiting on Ultima to comment.
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Well Ultima's definitely taking his sweet time on that final word.
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Yeah, I can confirm this, for the record. The Backyard being solid Low 1-C is fine by me in restrospect, given the statements about the physical universe being just a virtual world in comparision to it, the scans comparing it to a computer or an HTML page commanding a piece of software from the outside, the fact that the universe is stated to be dependent on it much like the Earth is dependent on the universe, and so on. Coupled with it being outright called a higher world, too.
Certainly, yes. I do wonder when he'll get off his ass and just answer already.
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Ultima joking around ?!
Joking aside I agree with the upgrades. So every 3-A would become Low 1-C if I'm not mistaken ?
Joking aside I agree with the upgrades. So every 3-A would become Low 1-C if I'm not mistaken ?
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Yes, they would.
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Nice. Hmm, would this be a good time to address the fact Dizzy should be 3-A period ? She has feats of fighting Justice to the point of retreating, defeating Cy with no damage , defeating Sol's duplicate with no damage.
But I'll just say I agree with the revision and hope for the best.
But I'll just say I agree with the revision and hope for the best.
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She would already be Low 1-C via scaling to fighting people like Justice (who was 1/2 of invoking Absolute World along with Sol).
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All 3-As will become Low 1-C.
All High 6-A, possibly 3-A’s will become Low 1-C.
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Just checked like half of them and quite a whole lot has 3-A, likely Low 2-C or has a 3-A tier.
So pretty much everyone whose a 3-A or has a 3-A in their key(s) is getting upgraded to Low 1-C.
Noice.
So pretty much everyone whose a 3-A or has a 3-A in their key(s) is getting upgraded to Low 1-C.
Noice.
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Yeah, pretty much. All before the new game comes out (and debunks everything) and we get new information.
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@DontTalkDT @Agnaa @SomebodyData @Celestial_Pegasus @Sir_Ovens @Wokistan
I would appreciate if you can verify that Ultima's evaluation above seems accurate. Thank you.
I would appreciate if you can verify that Ultima's evaluation above seems accurate. Thank you.
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Might as well elaborate on the evaluation while I'm at it:
- The Backyard is explicitly called a higher world in these scans. Now, while one might interpret this tidbit as saying that the Backyard is not a higher plane, some closer inspection on the context provided by the second scan actually shows that this is referring to how the universe is not created by Intelligent design, but just emerges as a result of the Backyard arranging information without an actual pattern: It's basically just saying that the creation of the world is a random process, and that the Backyard is a higher world which defines everything in the universe, but doesn't actually control it.
- This exchange, in turn, describes the universe as being just a virtual space in comparision to the Backyard, which fits with the above scans stating that the world is like a story, while the Backyard is the text through which it is told. Seemingly in the same conversation, it's also said to be bigger than the universe, and they further state that existence as a whole depends on the Backyard, just like the Earth depends on the universe for it exist somewhere.
- This scan is in Spanish, but I believe that someone in this thread got the original japanese version translated in the Translations Request Thread, so, they can post it here if necessary. But, nevertheless, it basically states that the Backyard isn't a parallel world, but moreso the ocean of information out of which the universe was created, akin to the HTML code of a webpage, and thus, that nothing occuring in the universe can actually affect anything in the Backyard.
- Here we have the Backyard being described as the mechanism which conveys the fundamental information that defines the world, and is further compared to a book or a library with the basic theory of reality written on its pages
Given how all of these statements are presumably done in contrast to a 4-D reality, baseline Low 1-C is fairly blatant here.
Note, also, that I am not knowledgeable on Guilty Gear by any means, and am only evaluating the scans provided to me. By extension, I also have no clue of how it scales to any of the characters, nor am I interested in finding that out.
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I had a very detailed explanation on why this scales to characters when I revised I-No, but my edits were reverted.
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@Ultima_Reality It would be this one you're referring to, yes. The one about the Backyard not being a parallel world but rather something akin to a computer and the universe being something of HTML code or whatnot.
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Yeah, clear qualitative difference.
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You can revert it back via the history section for the page later, if we get more staff approval here.
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Ultima was extremely critical, Agnaa doesn’t want to comment, and there’s no opposition so far. I feel like this is solid enough.
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Has this been done?
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