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When does the time skip start again?
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Around Samuel arc perhaps?When does the time skip start again?
CountedDon't see any new arguments for Daniel.
Voting Ayanokoji FRA for now.
Is there a way i can fix the tags?Don't see any new arguments for Daniel.
Voting Ayanokoji FRA for now.
Not sure. I think the you need to ask a thread moderator to do it.Is there a way i can fix the tags?
I want to switch the daniel park (true body) tag.
I see, ThanksNot sure. I think the you need to ask a thread moderator to do it.
Honestly this just baffled me so much that I can't figure out what you're even trying to argue for that I left for a few days.But why would he think of another topic out of nowhere?
First off solid arguments. Secondly that's fair considering it's in a classroom. The very beginning version of Daniel is vulnerable to that but that was the earliest point. But still Daniel's instincts are there and there's the major issue of Aya needing to touch Daniel to land the hit in the first place. Even on the very first fight Daniel had he instinctually catches attacks that are feints like what he did with Zack.Ayanokoji's analytical prediction is too OP here. Even if Daniel can instinctively dodge Ayano can come up with every possible way daniel can dodge and lure him into a position/trap where evading simply isn't possible.
Ty for clarifying. However are they used on people of his level? I noticed that Daniel actually had the slight AP advantage here. There's still the persisting issue that it needs to hit in the first place which lands me on my LS notice. Not to mention that's not really going to be too effective on someone who is always instincitively dodging.That's not it. Ayanokoji's pressure point strikes are precise, capable of knocking out people with one hit(via targeting the solar plexus or throat). He can also use pressure points to induce special effects, for example he targets the nasal pole where even if the damage recieved is light it causes tears to come out of the eyes making the victim close their eyes letting Ayano strike more pressure points.
The issue persists however. Daniel has a 'getting faster/stronger' body even in the middle of combat, a potential reflex that are higher than his speed (which is equalized here), and the fact that Ayanokoji still needs to hit him. Perfectly predicting everything is difficult when your opponent instinctually dodges anything (to the point that they can be daydreaming in the middle of it).Ayanokoji won't let that happen. Unless it's under special circumstances he never let's anyone land a single hit on him let alone grab him. Ayanokoji is capable of this level of thinking:
Fair. But there are some moves that you cannot dodge no matter what and Aya would inevitably slip up if his opponent is both instinctively dodging, has a growing speed, and he's messed up if he makes one wrong move.With info analysis and analytical prediction along with extraordinary genius intelligence Ayanokoji will have several counters ready for any move Daniel makes the moment he makes them.
What i meant is, Based on what the wiki says Daniel will dodge anything out of instinct ONLY when he is thinking of another topic while fighting someoneHonestly this just baffled me so much that I can't figure out what you're even trying to argue for that I left for a few days.
..... no.What i meant is, Based on what the wiki says Daniel will dodge anything out of instinct ONLY when he is thinking of another topic while fighting someone
"While Daniel is completely distracted thinking of another topic, Daniel was able to evade at the last second from multiple attacks"
Has he showned to be able to dodge on instinct when he is not distracted, Besides ambushes?That means he can instinctively Dodge someone EVEN while distracted.
I'll let you think on that.Has he showned to be able to dodge on instinct when he is not distracted, Besides ambushes?
Like an attack stronger than him and he just dodges instead of blocking?
I don't remember him being able to so? But please feel free to correct me
He usually only uses pressure points against people he can't do meaningful damage to with his regular attacks.Ty for clarifying. However are they used on people of his level? I noticed that Daniel actually had the slight AP advantage here. There's still the persisting issue that it needs to hit in the first place which lands me on my LS notice. Not to mention that's not really going to be too effective on someone who is always instincitively dodging.
He got scared the moment Gun laughed or smiledHe usually only uses pressure points against people he can't do meaningful damage to with his regular attacks.
I still think Ayano will eventually come up with a strategy where he will lead Daniel into a trap where dodging would not be a possibility where he'd get pressure point KOed.
How good will Daniel do against fear manipulation?
Makes sense then that's viable then. Though if Daniel doesn't take damage from his atks via dodging that sounds unlikely as his go toHe usually only uses pressure points against people he can't do meaningful damage to with his regular attacks.
I still think Ayano will eventually come up with a strategy where he will lead Daniel into a trap where dodging would not be a possibility where he'd get pressure point KOed.
How good will Daniel do against fear manipulation?
It's on the border of supernatural and social influencing.Makes sense then that's viable then. Though if Daniel doesn't take damage from his atks via dodging that sounds unlikely as his go to
Well the issue is the trap would work against someone slower. Not faster. Daniel went from being stomped by Zack on the same fight twice, before he just outstation him. And that's with a big speed and strength gap each time. It's just not feasible to trap someone with that fast of a growth rate.
Daniel overcame his fear consistently throughout the series. Is this social influence fear? Cause the only fear he was vulnerable to was Logan and that was through trauma
Those should be on his profile. In any case, that sounds like social influencing mostly on the first part. Last two seem more like just glares.It's on the border of supernatural and social influencing.
Just to list Ayanokoji's fear inducement feats:
How good can daniel do against this?
- He stunned Nagumo(who at the moment believed he was superior to Ayanokoji.) with his glare.
- Did the same thing to WR enforsers(trained fighters with weapons) as an 8 year old long enough to have a whole conversation with one of his classmates before she got expelled.
- Hirata and Kei just told him their deepest secrets just to get him to stop staring at them with his glare.
- Ibuki went from insulting him to completely changing her tune and answered all his questions as soon as he 'looked at her with bloodlust'.
It's on his profile.Does daniel grow stronger and faster every attack? Or just attacks he can't handle with his current capablities?
Why doesn't he have fear resistance in his first key? Did they forget to add it, Since Gun has better feats than Ayanokoji?Daniel should be able to resist it. You can argue seeing that glare might make Daniel freeze up for a moment like when Gun briefly scared him.
I believe the problem here will be if Daniel will be able to survive long enough for him to get stronger.You can argue maybe that since Aya is going to be predicting and dodging and relying on pressure points it won't trigger that fast, but that slow increase will still build up.
I still believe he won't be able to last, Considering the pressure points might Ko him or Stun him for a moment, Giving Ayanokouji a chance to attack again.Also a single pressure point might escalate that and even if you can argue he follows it up with pressure point after pressure point, Daniel will likely be able to dodge.
CountedDaniel FRA.
They don't have prior knowledge, Please read the rules and chat ;-;Last msg
I realize they both have knowledge.
I thought that counted, Thanks for the clarificationAnd not sure people get fear res on social influencing on their profiles usually so I didn't back then. Also ptj verse as a whole is a mess
So this was changed?I will give them both then
I said this. Im very sorry for the misunderstandingLemme take that out then.
What's invalid stats?Why are we still voting on a thread where a character has invalid stats?
I don't know what's invalid stats tooWhy are we still voting on a thread where a character has invalid stats?
Probably.should we close this then?
Martial goes to Daniel unless your using base Daniel before Gun training then Koji is technically more skilled but Ui obviously far exceeds his skill and so does his self after Gun training. But even then Daniel can just copy Koji and beat him physically since he’s a lot stronger plus has a little bit of precognition even without Ui. But Daniel kind of slams especially if he’s using the bodies full capabilities.Ayanokouji Advantages;
1 - More skilled
2 - Better Analytical Precog
3 - More versatil
4 - Massibily better martial arts
5 - Better Pressure points
Daniel Advantages;
1 - Power mimicry
2 - Massive LS advantage
3 - Reactive evolution
4 - More Haxed
I think this is it, Please correct me if im wrong
It's 2nd body Daniel Pre time-skipMartial goes to Daniel unless your using base Daniel before Gun training then Koji is technically more skilled but Ui obviously far exceeds his skill and so does his self after Gun training. But even then Daniel can just copy Koji and beat him physically since he’s a lot stronger plus has a little bit of precognition even without Ui. But Daniel kind of slams especially if he’s using the bodies full capabilities.
Got you it kind of seemed weird for a wall level character to fight a small building level character also I believe Daniel has way too much Hax for Koji to stand a chance even with equal stats.It's 2nd body Daniel Pre time-skip
Also this match was kinda invalidated due to invalid stats
I kinda forgot to call an admin here
What makes this fair is the fact that Ayanokoji has OP analytical prediction to the point it will be impossible for Daniel to dodge/block (of sorts)Got you it kind of seemed weird for a wall level character to fight a small building level character also I believe Daniel has way too much Hax for Koji to stand a chance even with equal stats.
Ayanokoji gets lil Daniel treatmentDaniel for the win!
If it was UI Daniel how would it go?
From his bullies or his harem?Ayanokoji gets lil Daniel treatment
I think Daniel has to much counters if there equal speed then he just has precognition so he’s dodging him plus copying him and Koji loses if for some reason Koji beats him which he won’t he will go Ui match his level copy every thing perfectly has visual acuity and Isabel precognition with Systma which bypasses durability the Ui will give him a speed and reaction boast he won’t feel pain he has shown the ability to resist attacks like systma and block them it’s a uphill battle for Koji and this is if it was equal stats just skill alone.What makes this fair is the fact that Ayanokoji has OP analytical prediction to the point it will be impossible for Daniel to dodge/block (of sorts)
And pressure points to knockout Daniel super quick