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Great movie, and a great end to 11 years of the MCU. But this thread is not for discussing the movie, but revising our profiles based on new possible upgrades/downgrades, whatever it takes.
Thanos and the Black Order
Let's start with the big bad guy Thanos. People think it's inconsistent that 2014 Thanos seems to be stronger than Thanos with incomplete IG. However, Thanos in Endgame was actually bloodlusted and was trying to kill these annoying Avengers. Probably explains it.
Not much upgrades for base Thanos except probably adding the Infinity Sword as his standard equipment. The Infinity Gauntlet, however would be upgraded. Thanos states he would shred the universe down to its last atom and create a new one. People have debated whether it's 3-A, High 3-A or Low 2-C. It's just 3-A in my opinion, as it's just destroying the matter in the universe.
The Black Order were...disappointing and inconsistent as hell. Corvus Glaive got stabbed (killed?) by Okoye, though that can be explained by sharp weaponry yada yada. She should probably be "higher with weaponry" just like the Asgardians. Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight should be downgraded to just 8-C (scaling to Captain America) in my opinion. Corvus Glaive only harmed Vision with his spear. Cull Obsidian should also be downgraded to 7-A, as Giant-Man was able to one-shot him (will talk about him later) by stamping on his face. I don't think he should really scale to Iron Man. Ebony Maw is the most consistent among the Black Order, and should be fine.
Feats
List of feats/potential upgrades (including outliers and PIS):
Let's start with Iron Man, the man who started the franchise. Wasn't bad in the movie, but in terms of feats, he was meh. Got stomped by Thanos despite being helped by Thor and Cao. Would probably stay as High 6-B.
Captain America with Mjolnir was rather impressive. Was able to briefly go one-on-one against Thanos. According to Odin's enchantment whoever be worthy will possess the power of Thor, so his physical strength would be on Thor's level as well. High 6-B Captain America, also with lightning manipulation.
Fat Thor was disappointing. He is clearly weaker than Infinity War Thor, but was still barely able to fight Thanos. Should be High 6-B, though a new key is necessary to note that he is significantly weaker than before.
Professor Hulk would have an upgraded intelligence rating, but feat-wise he was disappointing too. He did put on Iron Man's gauntlet, he also implied that anyone else in the room would die trying so. Moreover, he supported a portion of the collapsed Avengers HQ while with an injured arm.
Black Widow didn't have any good feats in the movie. Hawkeye did outrun an explosion caused by his own arrow. No good feats for War Machine either.
Someone should probably calculate how much of the explosion that blew up the Avengers HQ Ant-Man tanked. He had a small surface size, so it might not be that much of an outlier. For Giant-Man, he would be 7-A, as he easily punched Leviathans far better than Hulk and Thor did in the original Avengers movie. And how tall was he? Probably around a 100 feet?
Captain Marvel will without a doubt scale to Thanos in terms of physical strength. Would she have MFTL+ travel speed though, and would her speed affect any other characters?
The Guardians of the Galaxy and the sorcerers wouldn't have any upgrades either, nor would the other less important characters.
That's how much I could think of atm. What do you think?
Thanos and the Black Order
Let's start with the big bad guy Thanos. People think it's inconsistent that 2014 Thanos seems to be stronger than Thanos with incomplete IG. However, Thanos in Endgame was actually bloodlusted and was trying to kill these annoying Avengers. Probably explains it.
Not much upgrades for base Thanos except probably adding the Infinity Sword as his standard equipment. The Infinity Gauntlet, however would be upgraded. Thanos states he would shred the universe down to its last atom and create a new one. People have debated whether it's 3-A, High 3-A or Low 2-C. It's just 3-A in my opinion, as it's just destroying the matter in the universe.
The Black Order were...disappointing and inconsistent as hell. Corvus Glaive got stabbed (killed?) by Okoye, though that can be explained by sharp weaponry yada yada. She should probably be "higher with weaponry" just like the Asgardians. Corvus Glaive and Proxima Midnight should be downgraded to just 8-C (scaling to Captain America) in my opinion. Corvus Glaive only harmed Vision with his spear. Cull Obsidian should also be downgraded to 7-A, as Giant-Man was able to one-shot him (will talk about him later) by stamping on his face. I don't think he should really scale to Iron Man. Ebony Maw is the most consistent among the Black Order, and should be fine.
Feats
List of feats/potential upgrades (including outliers and PIS):
- Scarlet Witch overpowers Thanos, though her tier'll probably not change. Wanda also breaks Thanos's sword which deflected Stormbreaker
- Spider-Man yanks down Cull Obsidian by taking him on surprise, and Giant-Man one-shots him by stomping on him. High 6-B Giant-Man or outlier?
- Okoye fights and kills Corvus Glaive (blatant outlier)
- Giant-Man punches a Leviathan, far stronger than 7-A Hulk's in the original Avengers movie
- Cap can manipulate lightning with Mjolnir, as well as fight Thanos for half a minute. Cap's shield and hammer throws harm Thanos better than Hulk in Infinity War. Could possibly be High 6-B, though he'd at least be 7-A scaling to Mjolnir Thor
- Captain Marvel carried the Milano, a potential lifting strength feat. Should also scale to base Thanos, though she was one-shotted by the Power Stone
- Thanos breaks Cap's shield, though only with his sword. Would only be 7-A though
- Fat Thor is clearly weaker than Infinity War Thor, and is overpowered+nearly killed by Thanos with both Stormbreaker and Mjolnir. He was still able to hold back against Thanos trying to kill him with Stormbreaker (Thanos was using both hands)
- Valkyrie kills a Leviathan with a spear
- Infinity Gauntlet statements
- Doctor Strange makes a water tornado (water manipulation/telekinesis)
- Spidey insta-kills Outriders
- Hawkeye fights Outriders (possible outlier)
- Iron Man kills all of Thanos's army with Infinity Gauntlet
- Captain Marvel busts Thanos's ship. Could be a decent supporting feat since Thanos's ship is far bigger than the Asgardian's ship in Infinity War which is High 7-C
- Injured Hulk stopped a portion of the Avengers HQ from collapsing
Let's start with Iron Man, the man who started the franchise. Wasn't bad in the movie, but in terms of feats, he was meh. Got stomped by Thanos despite being helped by Thor and Cao. Would probably stay as High 6-B.
Captain America with Mjolnir was rather impressive. Was able to briefly go one-on-one against Thanos. According to Odin's enchantment whoever be worthy will possess the power of Thor, so his physical strength would be on Thor's level as well. High 6-B Captain America, also with lightning manipulation.
Fat Thor was disappointing. He is clearly weaker than Infinity War Thor, but was still barely able to fight Thanos. Should be High 6-B, though a new key is necessary to note that he is significantly weaker than before.
Professor Hulk would have an upgraded intelligence rating, but feat-wise he was disappointing too. He did put on Iron Man's gauntlet, he also implied that anyone else in the room would die trying so. Moreover, he supported a portion of the collapsed Avengers HQ while with an injured arm.
Black Widow didn't have any good feats in the movie. Hawkeye did outrun an explosion caused by his own arrow. No good feats for War Machine either.
Someone should probably calculate how much of the explosion that blew up the Avengers HQ Ant-Man tanked. He had a small surface size, so it might not be that much of an outlier. For Giant-Man, he would be 7-A, as he easily punched Leviathans far better than Hulk and Thor did in the original Avengers movie. And how tall was he? Probably around a 100 feet?
Captain Marvel will without a doubt scale to Thanos in terms of physical strength. Would she have MFTL+ travel speed though, and would her speed affect any other characters?
The Guardians of the Galaxy and the sorcerers wouldn't have any upgrades either, nor would the other less important characters.
That's how much I could think of atm. What do you think?
