This isn't actually true. It's a conceptual defense based on ranks, where ranks and AP are not always the same in the setting (although I believe for the purposes of debates we often equate them since they're usually correlated). But his power definitely treats it as a quality difference rather than a quantity one. Here's a quote from the Type-Moon wiki to explain what I mean:
Perhaps not. Although I feel like arguing about if someone is worth redeeming because of hypothetical outcomes isn't actually useful to reaching a good conclusion, otherwise, we'd have to hold every character accountable for stuff that didn't even happen. Would Zuko deserve redemption if he had succeeded in delivering Aang to Ozai? What about if Iroh's assault on Ba Sing Se had succeeded? These things didn't happen so we don't really hold it against Zuko or Iroh, even though the consequences would have resulted in extreme amounts of suffering and death.
To be fair, is the tabletop game considered canon?
I would say so. All the new lore was signed off on by Avatar Studios, with Mike and Bryan being directly involved with writing some of it.
Nah, not nearly enough evidence for that.
The tabletop says that Raava also broke through the barrier. This probably explains why one portal is red and one is blue.
Well, she created and helped maintain the tornado that ultimately got Zaheer. Also, she and Opal created a massive wind gust that held back Kuvira's army, which Opal was able to maintain on her own when Jin left. I think we also need another airbender profile because we only have Tenzin and Zaheer.
Nah, this is definitely hyperbole. She was just lifting rocks that fell in the cave on top of her and others
All spirits should have types 1 and 4 immortality by default (They live forever unless they take on a mortal incarnation and Lady Tienhan stated that even when they do die in that incarnation they simply take on a new form). The Ocean Spirit took mortal form but was also about as old as the planet Earth itself, so it might still have type 1 even as a koi fish. Either that or really impressive longevity. Type 3 for the Ocean Spirit doesn't really work since its physical body is the koi fish, which never showed regen. It simply created a shell of water around Aang, which isn't an actual body in the first place, it's just water held in a shape. I'm not sure about spirits having type 2 either, since we know Kuruk could kill them with conventional attacks, I doubt he was like vaporizing them or anything to the point where type 2 would be ineffective. Not to mention General Old Iron showed that a hole in the chest is enough to put a spirit down.
It should have type 3 because its body is technically the entire ocean, from which it can retreat into and regenerate. And Kuruk killed all of those spirits while he was in the spirit world. Since astral projection forms can be perceived in the spirit world while they're normally invisible in the physical world, and attacked, the Spirit World's environment effects spiritual entities. Plus, the ones that Kuruk killed were dark spirits, not regular spirits. Remember that Korra's attacks in the avatar state were ineffective against one dark spirit, and it was even able to swat her out of the state. Not the same as the type of spirit as General Old Iron.
Yeah, but its body isn't the ocean. It just manipulates it. Its body is explicitly stated to be the koi fish, which is why the moon spirit died when Zhao attacked its fish body. Not sure why being in the spirit world matters. Their immortality has nothing to do with their incorporeality, so their not having that in the spirit world isn't relevant. If anything him killing dark spirits would show that they shouldn't have type 2, as Aang accidentally oneshot Old Iron meanwhile as you said dark spirits have tanked attacks from avatars. If even the harder to harm dark spirits can be killed by conventional damage then the even weaker spirits shouldn't get type 2 either.
I'm talking purely about its giant form. This should be obvious. It and Aang transformed into the giant blue fish mass, as the Koi is gone when the moon spirit is brought back to life.
I'm not saying it did, I'm saying that the physiology of the spirit world allowed him to kill the dark spirits with sheer brute force when that wouldn't have happened in the Physical world, as we saw with Korra and her avatar state.
But he didn't. He exchanged multiple blows with the spirit before then.
Then it would elemental intang for being made of water. Idk if we give regen for not having a solid form in the first place.
That's still not a type 2 immortality thing. Type 2 is for being able to survive with fatal wounds. She simply failed to harm them in those instances. When they do get harmed they can die from their injuries.
He was explicitly holding back the whole time. He didn't want to attack him at all because he didn't think Old Iron could tank a serious hit from him. He only ended up doing what he did when Old Iron tries to hurt Toph and even then he states that he didn't mean to hit him so hard.
Okay, that's what I was wondering about. No type 2, then.
The Spirit library one? Nope.
You were talking about this one, right? You think it's inaccurate, or do you want it submitted to be evaluated?
It could be recalced me thinks to see if it’s still the same result
If Aang is going to get an Ocean Spirit key, I think it should be used because I don't think there's enough evidence that the Ocean Spirit controls all the world's oceans. The moon spirit definitely does because its technically the first water bender, and the moon "pulls" the water.
From what I read, shaking the planet would get 6-a, which is already on Vaatu's profile. I think we should find out what rating he would get for covering two planets in darkness, since covering one planet is 5-c.
The latter should also be calced then too in my opinion.
Isn’t this from his darkness feat however? This would be for Harmonic Convergence which would be a good feat to fall back on just incase.
Interesting. Here’s the thing though. Well, 2 things.
Tbh, I don't know where Raava and Vaatu's current environmental destruction ratings came from.
Well every time someone transports themselves into the spirit world from Earth, they end up in a different location in the SW. So I assume it's at least Earth-sized, despite the shifting environment. And for covering the world, there is that cloud feat posted earlier that Vaatu casually did. If he was at full power, I could imagine the feat being much bigger
