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Long story short Arceus is confirmed to have an avatar which is lesser than it's true form. Probably is that even for a character that appears very little it still appears enough that it's hard to pin down how strong it is exactly. However I have a solution born from my knowledge of most Pokemon media, as the thing is that the wiki separates canon's into primary and secondary, with Arceus' avatars portrayal and strength fitting well enough into two key based off these canon. These canons would be primary canon is everything created by Game Freak. Which is basically the creation mythology in Diamond/Pearl/Platinum, the Sinjoh ruins events in Heart Gold/Soul Silver, and Legends: Arceus. Secondary Canon is basically everything else.
For the creation mythology their isn't really much, as it is just that. An explanation of Arceus' nature as an avatar and how it created everything, no real anti-feat to it's god-like nature. The Sinjoh ruins event has is so that you bring Arceus to special ruins between Johto and Sinnoh and some real trippy real life imaginary appears and Arceus creates an egg of one of the Creation Trio, this also serves to display it's god-like nature and how vastly superior it is to even the Creation Trio. Legends: Arceus meanwhile has Giratina rip a hole through space-time and across numerous universe to try and reach Arceus for revenge, it fails and Arceus isekai's the player character to clean up the mess, once that's done and you have caught all the Pokemon it brings you to it's realm and fights for a bit before deciding your worthy to command one of it's avatars. It also visits you in your dream and has you face challenges for rewards, even creating copies of the Creation Trio to face. Basically no real anti-feats, just god-like nature.
Currently this is rated as Low 1-C, however, I suggest with the additional context that all the anti-feats no longer are acknowledged as part of the primary canon key that it can be Possibly Low 1-A based on it's nature of transcending everything and creating it's realm beyond space and time making it above dimensionality.
As for it's secondary canon key it's probably best to just scale it to the Creation Trio as even at it's worst in the Jewel of Life or the Adventure's manga it's always treated as superior to the Creation Trio, able to recreate and defeat them with ease even if it's not treated as on another level of strength.
Conclusion
Basically I'm proposing an additional Secondary Canon Avatar that is "At least 2-B, likely 2-A" and a Primary Canon Avatar that is "Low 1-C, Possibly Low 1-A".
For the creation mythology their isn't really much, as it is just that. An explanation of Arceus' nature as an avatar and how it created everything, no real anti-feat to it's god-like nature. The Sinjoh ruins event has is so that you bring Arceus to special ruins between Johto and Sinnoh and some real trippy real life imaginary appears and Arceus creates an egg of one of the Creation Trio, this also serves to display it's god-like nature and how vastly superior it is to even the Creation Trio. Legends: Arceus meanwhile has Giratina rip a hole through space-time and across numerous universe to try and reach Arceus for revenge, it fails and Arceus isekai's the player character to clean up the mess, once that's done and you have caught all the Pokemon it brings you to it's realm and fights for a bit before deciding your worthy to command one of it's avatars. It also visits you in your dream and has you face challenges for rewards, even creating copies of the Creation Trio to face. Basically no real anti-feats, just god-like nature.
Arceus is the "God who transcends everything", whose realm is far beyond both the infinite space (which consists of parallel universes and directions) and time and the Distortion World, which lacks time and direction.
Currently this is rated as Low 1-C, however, I suggest with the additional context that all the anti-feats no longer are acknowledged as part of the primary canon key that it can be Possibly Low 1-A based on it's nature of transcending everything and creating it's realm beyond space and time making it above dimensionality.
As for it's secondary canon key it's probably best to just scale it to the Creation Trio as even at it's worst in the Jewel of Life or the Adventure's manga it's always treated as superior to the Creation Trio, able to recreate and defeat them with ease even if it's not treated as on another level of strength.
Conclusion
Basically I'm proposing an additional Secondary Canon Avatar that is "At least 2-B, likely 2-A" and a Primary Canon Avatar that is "Low 1-C, Possibly Low 1-A".
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