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Arceus Nonduality/Transduality Type 2?

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So I was just wondering why Arceus doesn't have Transduality or Nonduality or whatever (probably because the last attempt was a disaster that tried to argue everything except what could have been valid). So here is this thread. For scans for what I'm describing, I'll be pointing towards Executor N0's blog, which contains both English and Japanese scans and lays them out in a easy to understand way, which should help make this CRT not be overly long and difficlt to read.

As people familiar with the series should known. Palkia and Dialga represent the concept of space and time, while Uxie, Azelf, and Mespirit represent the concepts of knowledge, willpower, and emotions. With Palkia and Dialga creating matter and the Lake Trio bestowed life with spirit, together these groups represent both the physical and non-physical aspects of the world.

Then we have Giratina, they are the opposite of Palkia and Dialga, their world being the opposite of the Pokémon multiverse. A world of anti-matter that is like a reflection of the regular world, lacking the concepts of space, time, and spirit. This nothingness that is opposite of everything the Pokémon multiverse is made of is the concept Giratina represents.

Then we have Arceus who is the "God who transcends everything", whose realm is beyond both time and space and Giratina's world. The true form of Arceus is the Heart/Original Spirit, who gave birth to the world, both the regular world and Giratina's, through perceiving it. From the concepts of time and space to all people and Pokémon, they were all the same within its consciousness, of which the cosmology only expands as its consciousness enriches. It is the primordial Consciousness that is both a part of everything and outside everything, beyond time and space, and everything physical, non-physical or nonexistent. It is only through it's physical manifestation, that itself is beyond both time and space and the reach of everything else in the world, that it can see and walk the world on the same level as it's inhabitants.

Basically, Space-Time Duo and Lake Trio represent everything, Giratina and its world the opposite of all that, Arceus transcends and is outside them both. I think this is should be enough Nonduality Nature Type 2, Aspect Type 2 for true form Arceus. Though I could be wrong.
 
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Considering Arceus as original one was essentially all concepts of reality mixed into one single whole and he also transcends those concepts even when they are ‘separate’ from him transduality probably works instead of just nonduality so I agree
 
Heeeh, I've got a nitpick. Wouldn't this be Nonduality 1 instead of 2? I'm pretty sure there's no statements of literally every duality being transcended. Wouldn't it be Nature Type 2 Aspect 1?
 
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As I talk about in the OP itself. While the regular world consits of space and time, dimensions, matter, and spirit, everything material and spiritual. Giritina's world not only lacks all that, but it is the opposite reflection, a world that is reverse everything that the regular world is, which is everything. Yet both this everything and nothing are intertwined, being as essential to each others existence as much as they oppose. However, Arceus is outside all this, transcendent of both as a representative of the primordial emptiness from which all things emerged.
 
As I talk about in the OP itself. While the regular world consits of space and time, dimensions, matter, and spirit, everything material and spiritual. Giritina's world not only lacks all that, but it is the opposite reflection, a world that is reverse everything that the regular world is, which is everything. Yet both this everything and nothing are intertwined, being as essential to each others existence as much as they oppose. However, Arceus is outside all this, transcendent of both as a representative of the primordial emptiness from which all things emerged.
Ok but the Creation/Lake Trio do not embody dualities, just their respective concept (like space, time and so on). Dualities here are meant to be conceptual ones, meaning that simply embodying existence is not grounds for being all of the dualities at once, as otherwise anyone embodying a cosmology would get it.
 
Ok but the Creation/Lake Trio do not embody dualities, just their respective concept (like space, time and so on). Dualities here are meant to be conceptual ones, meaning that simply embodying existence is not grounds for being all of the dualities at once, as otherwise anyone embodying a cosmology would get it.
It's Space-Time duo plus Lake Trio vs Giratina that are the dualties here. Material and Spiritual (everything) vs nothingness that reflects them, the regular world vs the reflection/distortion world. The concepts they represent vs the concept Giratina does.
 
It's Space-Time duo plus Lake Trio vs Giratina that are the dualties here. Material and Spiritual (everything) vs nothingness that reflects them.
I know what is that, but you're proposing Aspect 2 which says that every possible duality is transcended, when only few of them are.

This is why I said that is Nature 2, Aspect 1, because Arceus is confirmed to be outside only these dualities, and not literally all the other unmentioned ones.
 
I mean one side is everything then the other side is the opposite of everything, I'd say that includes every possible duality. As though the Space-Time duo and Lake Trio are known to represent specific things, what they created is everything, material and immaterial. Giratina meanwhile is the opposite of all that. The dual elements being every thing that consists the regular world and all the things that are opposite of that. Your overly focused on the whole space, and time, and all that while not looking at the broad picture of what both sides represent beyond that.
 
That's a massive NLF and you know that. Material and Immaterial in itself is already a duality, why would everything else be included? You're missing the part when the dualities in question should all be conceptual in nature.

I am fixed on space-time because that's another one of the few confirmed dualities here. But none else is, you're essentially claiming that every character who embodies a universe/cosmology on a concept level is automatically nondual because of all these dualities being secretely confirmed to be embodied, which is not really how it works.
Its seems accurate and alright.
That seems sensible.
No transduality expert, but looks fine from a glance.
I'd like you guys to check what I am saying, because it does not feel right at all.
 
The dualities here are the regular pokemon world and the reverse world, not space and time, not material and spiritual, it is space and whatever anti-space the reverse world has, its time and the opposite of time the distortion world has, its matter and anti-matter, its spirit and whatever reflection Giratina's world contains. Its fire, water, lightning, sky, gravity, dreams, dimensions, life, and so on, and all the things that Giratina's concept represents that is opposite them. It is everything vs the reflection for everything.
 
Or you just seem to fundamentally misunderstanding the basis of this CRT. Giratina's world and its nature is essential to it, but you still don't understand seem to that. Its not Space-Time duo and Lake Trio representing everything that is important, its only one part of the puzzle, it's also that we have a being and world that are explicitly their opposite, the other side of that duality. To make it even easier, its kinda like ying and yang, two dualites which all other dual elements are part of. Which Arceus then transcends.
 
No, where did you get that from.
Been like that in any thread I have been ☠️. Also:
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Which seems to refer to the thread's creation time.
 
Well even if that is the case, it hasn't even been 24 hours yet.
 
No, where did you get that from.
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Tagged to comment but this is above my pay grade. I'll look over it when able but if the period is up before I comment, I have no issue with this being applied given it has enough support.
 
Yes, but I'd prefer to give a little bit more time to see if anyone has anything else to say.
 
Tagged to comment but this is above my pay grade. I'll look over it when able but if the period is up before I comment, I have no issue with this being applied given it has enough support.
Forgot I was suppose to comment again. The addition looks ok from the glance I took at the power in question's page.
 
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