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okay Look at this, if someone has ten percent charkra that would mean but speed and ninjutsu are 10 percent if it goes up to 100 percent both speed and ninjutsu are 100 percent. The argument of the op is that since sage mode is chakra that amps all stats the same. Why will speed not be amped the same? Hence why he provided evidance for the speed being amped
If they have 0 chakra are they now immobile?
Taijutsu being 10x better ≠ every aspect of taijutsu being equally better. 2x speed and 5x strength can mean taijutsu is 10x better.
Taijutsu includes skill. Are you now 10x more skilled because you're amping stats?
Well yes zero charkra does not just mean immobile it means death. sage mode consist of Nature energy, mental energy and physical energy (chakra) this energy are combined to make a more powerful energy that amps your Taijustu by 10 again taijustu includes both and mental and physical ability, energy from from your physical body and mental state directly correlates to this action it make no sense for it to divide the energy again because the energy in your physical body is already ten times great . In fact it says that they have to be balance everything must be the same you can’t have too much nature or less nature energy this goes for physical and mental too.
example 1
the first gate was accepted on this wiki even though it does not necessarily say that the speed is amped by 5 but since we know that the physical stats are 5 time greater due the form allowing you to use 100 percent of your body potential energy (charkra) we automatically apply it for the speed too. It the same exact thing nothing changes. The only difference is that 1 gates allows you to use 100 percent of your body potential while, sage mode just muitiplier the 20 percent that everyone is allowed to use by 10
example 2
we already know that the curse mark increases strength by 10 so you dividing by giving 5x to strength and 2x speed is hasty generalizations that is not supported by any evidence at this point we will just be assuming anything when evidence as already been provided. Your argument is that we are arguing from ignorant but that is far from it we have a enough evidence to support than you have to oppose.
Cause I'm not wrong lol, people can run out of chakra and move.
And your arguments are ignored because once again, they're loopholes that aren't accepted. You said "speed is increased, so it should be increased by 10 because chakra and strength is increased by 10".
Our multiplier page says this
And you're completely ignoring it for "their speed is higher, so it should be 10x"
Until you send a scan of speed getting multiplied by 10, then it's not going up by 10
Honestly at this point
you are wrong and you still fail to admit zero chakra means death. Hence why isshiki died, hence why kurama died. There is even a scan that say zero chrakra means death.
yes and I’m not wrong with the explanation I gave, sage mode is a charkra that boost all stats, and the curse marks proves it is a minimum of 10. Remember they must be perfect balance.
taijustu is getting muitipled by 10 and again taijustu inclures physical abilities which includes speed. We have also proved that power in this case referred to all stats . So yes the power is boosted by 10.
There's a difference between having no chakra in your body and losing the materials used for chakra.
The latter kills you.
The first doesn'tHow you just gon say "no".
So in this diagram here when the chakra is done, they're dead?
can you now understand that basis on this diagram how the 10 times multilpler applys to all stats? how It makes no sense for the strength to be amped by 10 yet the speed is not? Because if at a given time one can use 30 percent of his energy to amp his physical stats which directly correlates to taijustu or ninjutsu . If that 30 is multiplEd by 10 doesn’t that mean it taijustu should also go up by 10 which includes speed?Who told you that? They stop it from flowing throughout their bodies, which is why Neji was surprised that chakra was even flowing in Naruto's body
Oh good this is all I need . The point is about them being relative in power and sage mode Being the superior version of the three as it is the complete version and a perfect version
the argument is that if curse mark is 10 charkra it makes no sense for sage mode which is a superior version be less than 10.
One of them is a transformation based on balance of chakra and another one is enzymes mixing with nature energy and producing a weird reaction.
Big difference.
So first
"curse mark ~ sage transformation ~ sage mode"
Now
"Curse Mark is a weaker form."
Make up your mind.
It should've been shat on after the fake gate scaling was deleted.
An AP multiplier shouldn't be an equal speed multiplier without a statement, and from what I see there is no statement
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1. They are people that achieved perfect sage mode they are > than people that didn’t
Eg orochimaru with the curse mark didn’t achieve perfect sage mode
kabuto achieved perfect sage mode
naruto is a perfect sage and jiraya is not.
so yes of this form curse mark is weaker than sage mode because it is not perfect.
if you see the op thread it says perfect sage mode user should get 10x muitipler
2. No not just an Ap this is a different scenario this is about 10x charkra equal 10x speed . Most especially with sage mode that spreads the chakra equally for ninjutsu, genjustu and taijustu. Don’t change the topic.
momoshiki ate kinshiki charkra gets 2 times stronger and faster accepted on the wiki
jigen 10 percent chrakra was stated to be 10 percent power
kaguya get more chrakra and grew stronger and faster immediately
naruto already accepted on this wiki with half charkra being at half speed and strength and with full charkra being at full power.
10 times charkra means 10 times stronger and faster
if you basically use 30 percent of stamina for speed and strength adding 10 times more charkra makes You ten times faster and stronger . Easy and simple.