Another another OP Abilities Addition

[KobsterHope07]

I will be talking about only six things:

• The first is basically Non-Physical Interaction and Limited Elemental Negation for Akainu

Reasoning: My first evidence is from our dearly departed Qliphoth Bacikal who translated this for me a few months ago. Basically a translation of the Ace vs Akainu thing. Akainu stated that his magma can burn up fire, which is further supported by the fact that Ace, a man who is literally pure fire, was burn. Not to mention how quickly Ace was overpowered, the same person he could match evenly with Aokiji. So similar reason to Marco being able to harm Prometheus

EDIT: It is also similar to that of the Amaterasu from Naruto in terms of burning fire and overpowering it

As for the Limited Elemental Negation, no where in the scene was shown that Akainu has bypass Ace’s Intangibility with Haki. All he mention is that of his magma being able to burn even fire. So this is similar reason to that of Luffy who could bypass Enel’s Intangibility with his rubber body.

• The second is Limited Non-Physical Interaction for Luffy

Reasoning: Basically that Luffy was able to kick and divert a bolt of lightning with his feet

• The third is Acrobatics for Apoo

Reasoning: Basically these. He was able to flip several times in the air before landing

• The fourth is Resistance to Animal Manipulation for Zoan Users

Reasoning: Tama’s dango, which can work on SMILE users, who are half human and half animal, and real animals, does not work on Zoan users

• The fifth ability is Creation and Telekinesis for Kaido's Flame Cloud

Reasoning: Kaido could create flame clouds to levitate an island like Onigashima

• The last and final ability is Limited Durability Negation for Zoro

Reasoning: Can cause wounds caused by Flying Dragon Blaze to set ablaze and burn opponents from the inside

So… what do you guys think? Yes? No? Maybe?

EDIT:

• Another ability that I have been told of is Limited Durability Negation against swords for Ryuma

Reasoning: Via this

 

[KingTempest]

Agreed with all

 

[DaReaperMan]

Agreed with all

 

[Eminiteable]

agree with all

 

[KobsterHope07]

Bump, I added another ability at the end under “EDIT”

 

[Eminiteable]

Agree with that ability as well

 

[KingTempest]

Same

 

[DaReaperMan]

Same

 

[Damage3245]

The fourth is Resistance to Animal Manipulation/Mind Manipulation for Zoan Users

Isn't that just a limitation of Tama's powers, not a resistance possessed by normal Zoan users?

It stands to reason since Smiles aren't actually Zoans themselves and are made from animal DNA, that an ability that works on animals primarily could affects Smile users without affecting Zoan users who can transform their bodies but aren't actually part-animal.

To put it another way; if a character had the ability to mind control all men exclusively, we wouldn't give female characters "Resistance to Mind Manipulation".

 

[KobsterHope07]

Isn't that just a limitation of Tama's powers, not a resistance possessed by normal Zoan users?

It stands to reason since Smiles aren't actually Zoans themselves and are made from animal DNA, that an ability that works on animals primarily could affects Smile users without affecting Zoan users who can transform their bodies but aren't actually part-animal.

To put it another way; if a character had the ability to mind control all men exclusively, we wouldn't give female characters "Resistance to Mind Manipulation".

Not necessarily imo. Zoan Devil Fruits turn the user into hybrid and full version of the real animals they are based on just like the other types Devil Fruit, like how Luffy’s physiology is changed to rubber due to his fruit and Enel is essentially a living breathing lightning bolt due to his fruit.

As for that last part, that doesn’t exactly work given if it is a ability that affect men alone, it would a flaw of the ability itself that female aren’t affected as it work on men for whatever reason. Tama’s Devil Fruit is different since it affects animals in general, not discriminate between male and female like your example.

How is the other abilities btw.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Agree with all.
But this

Resistance to Animal Manipulation/Mind Manipulation for Zoan Users

Should be resistance to Animal Manipulation

 

[PrinceofPein]

Isn't that just a limitation of Tama's powers, not a resistance possessed by normal Zoan users?

It stands to reason since Smiles aren't actually Zoans themselves and are made from animal DNA, that an ability that works on animals primarily could affects Smile users without affecting Zoan users who can transform their bodies but aren't actually part-animal.

To put it another way; if a character had the ability to mind control all men exclusively, we wouldn't give female characters "Resistance to Mind Manipulation".

agree with this, the rest seems okay although the scans for luffy own is a bit unclear

 

[KobsterHope07]

Agree with all.
But this

Should be resistance to Animal Manipulation

Probably so, yeah

 

[Blahblah9755]

What does the sword breaking technique do that would qualify it for durability negation? From the scans shown, it just seems to be wearing down the swords through skillful, yet ultimately normal, means, not ignoring their durability.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Agreed with all

 

[Eminiteable]

What does the sword breaking technique do that would qualify it for durability negation? From the scans shown, it just seems to be wearing down the swords through skillful, yet ultimately normal, means, not ignoring their durability.

the guy's AP is 7-C while the sword has at least 6-C durability

 

[Blahblah9755]

Seems fine then.
I think the fact that we classify Zoan fruit users as humans, and not human-animal hybrids should already indicate that abilities that target “animals” wouldn’t work on them, but if people are worried there might be confusion over that then adding resistance to animal manipulation wouldn’t hurt. So I’m neutral on that part (though against resistance to mind manip)
I agree with everything else.

 

[KobsterHope07]

Seems fine then.
I think the fact that we classify Zoan fruit users as humans, and not human-animal hybrids should already indicate that abilities that target “animals” wouldn’t work on them, but if people are worried there might be confusion over that then adding resistance to animal manipulation wouldn’t hurt. So I’m neutral on that part (though against resistance to mind manip)
I agree with everything else.

They are considered humans in their… well human form. When they transformed, they should be considered animals (Full) or hyrbid of animal and human (Hybrid Form).

Don’t worry I remove the Mind Manipulation part

 

[Damage3245]

They are considered humans in their… well human form. When they transformed, they should be considered animals (Full) or hyrbid of animal and human (Hybrid Form).

They only have the forms of animals, not the minds.

I guess there's not really any harm in mentioning it on their profiles but it seems a tad unnecessary to me.

 

[Eminiteable]

They only have the forms of animals, not the minds.

Do smile users have the minds of animals?

 

[KingTempest]

Rob Lucci gets his animal's ferociousness.

Seems to have the minds

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

I agree with everything so far, except the Zoan thing. Still up in the air on that, though I'm leaning toward agreeing with the OP.

 

[Damage3245]

Do smile users have the minds of animals?

Yeah. The Smile body parts typically act independently of them with actual living conscious animals sticking out of them.

 

[Eminiteable]

Yeah. The Smile body parts typically act independently of them with actual living conscious animals sticking out of them.

True, although I might be misremembering but aren't there smile users who don't function that way but are still effected by the kibi dango?

We also have Maria who seems to have a separate consciousness in her Zoan form for her animal yet assumingly she would be immune as well to the kibi dango.

 

[KobsterHope07]

Yeah. The Smile body parts typically act independently of them with actual living conscious animals sticking out of them.

Not always, we do have cases like Speed, Batman, and probably others that that do not have their animal body parts act independently.

 

[Damage3245]

We also have Maria who seems to have a separate consciousness in her Zoan form for her animal yet assumingly she would be immune as well to the kibi dango.

No way of knowing for certain. Black Maria's DF is a bit weird.

 

[Ryuga21]

What do you think of limited pressure points for Zoro's Ashura? the Databook implies that it directs all sword attacks to the opponent's vital points.

 

[Eminiteable]

What do you think of limited pressure points for Zoro's Ashura? the Databook implies that it directs all sword attacks to the opponent's vital points.

Makes sense, although unsure about it being only limited.

 

[KobsterHope07]

What do you think of limited pressure points for Zoro's Ashura? the Databook implies that it directs all sword attacks to the opponent's vital points.

I guess so. From what I seen with Garou, targeting vital points does qualify as Pressure Points

 

[Elizhaa]

I am neutral on the Zoan's additions, from the points above. I think the others things can work.

 

[Crabwhale]

Uh, apologies for potentially being stupid but...lightning's not non physical.

Like, it's plasma. Sure, kicking it away is pretty weird but I don't think NPI applies at all here.

Otherwise these sound fine to me.

 

[KobsterHope07]

Alrighty, so can I start applying the abilities to the profile

 

[PrinceofPein]

Uh, apologies for potentially being stupid but...lightning's not non physical.

Like, it's plasma. Sure, kicking it away is pretty weird but I don't think NPI applies at all here.

Otherwise these sound fine to me.

i agree with this i already said it was weird

 

[Crabwhale]

Alrighty, so can I start applying the abilities to the profile

I literally just brought up something that's not right.

 

[WrongIdea21]

I agreee

 

[Dr.Fix]

Reasoning: Basically that Luffy was able to kick and divert a bolt of lightning with his feet

Reasoning: Basically these. He was able to flip several times in the air before landing

Reasoning: Via this

I cannot see the images in those links. Otherwise everything looks fine to me and I would support resistance to animal manipulation for true zoan users, however I am less sure about Awakened Zoans as they have literally lost their human selves to their beasts. A possible exception for them seems appropiate or at least worth discussing.

 

[KobsterHope07]

I cannot see the images in those links. Otherwise everything looks fine to me and I would support resistance to animal manipulation for true zoan users, however I am less sure about Awakened Zoans as they have literally lost their human selves to their beasts. A possible exception for them seems appropiate or at least worth discussing.

Strange, the images is working fine for me, and no one else had complained about not seeing it

 

[KingTempest]

I see them all.

The first one is this.

The second one is this

The third one is this

 

[Dr.Fix]

Thanks for providing the scans directly Tempest

I'm indifferent to lightning and agree with acrobatics. Ryuma I am not convinced since the evidence is Zoro speculating and visually it is just a clash of blades-basic AP/Dur.

 

[KobsterHope07]

Alrighty, so can I start applying the abilities to the profile