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9-A Cap and co seems dope
Agents of Shield feels weird for me but I won't press it
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ALL VIBRANIUM IS EQUAL (MCU)
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Agents of Shield feels weird for me but I won't press it
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Pretty sure Iron Man's tank-lifting feats would automatically be Class 100 anyway because the tanks they lift seem to be based on the M1 Abrams class of tanks.
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Surprised I wasn't tagged for this, so something I need to confirm from the OP, does this only grant 6-C durability? Cuz looking back at this, the only people capable of harming Vision, Ultron and even Black Panther were either metals comparable to Vibranium or the powerhouses, like Thor, Hulk and Wanda.
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Ultron is the only character that scales in durability, and his dura is At most 6-C. Vision doesn't scale to the 6-C thing at all due to him being a different case.
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There's not a chance of that at all I debunked all his points and explained that away if you read through it all
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Zamasu‘s points all involved a vibranium alloy which was agreed to not scale to pure vibranium and none of the instances besides the AoS one actually involved vibranium being damaged by raw power.
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I don’t disagree
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So just indifferent then?
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Probably best to leave a note on Ultron's or Vision's profile about the Vibranium scaling.
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Is there a spot I can link this thread on their profiles to do that or if not where would I note that?
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Ah okay I see it
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Are there still any concerns left here or do those of you who've responded today agree to the changes
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Bump
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You have Thor being allegedly capable of cracking up a hundred meters sized vibranium spire with a blow, yet Thanos who is so above him that is funny only breaking a small vibranium shield, not even fully destroying it just shaving half of it after multiple strikes with his sword.
You have Thanos doing that to Cap's shield, yet with Vision who is also made of vibranium only needed two fingers to rip part of his head off (And don't come here with him being injured, my left arm being broken will not make my right arm weaker).
You have BP tanking a hit from the sword and getting up fine, but then you previously had him knocked out cold and suit overcharged with a single casual blow from Thanos. I do argue that the former is an outlier considering its not consistent with his showings.
I'm not going to bother with Hulk denting a vibranium wall, because I believe we will soon stop relying on Agents of Shield things (And most series pre-disney plus) due to canocity issues.
Overall, definetly disagree with this idea of ALL VIBRANIUM being for some contrived reason equal.
You have Thanos doing that to Cap's shield, yet with Vision who is also made of vibranium only needed two fingers to rip part of his head off (And don't come here with him being injured, my left arm being broken will not make my right arm weaker).
You have BP tanking a hit from the sword and getting up fine, but then you previously had him knocked out cold and suit overcharged with a single casual blow from Thanos. I do argue that the former is an outlier considering its not consistent with his showings.
I'm not going to bother with Hulk denting a vibranium wall, because I believe we will soon stop relying on Agents of Shield things (And most series pre-disney plus) due to canocity issues.
Overall, definetly disagree with this idea of ALL VIBRANIUM being for some contrived reason equal.
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We've literally already been over all of this I see you haven't bothered to read the thread at all
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Doesn't crack the entire thing he just needs to put a crack in it period
Literally vision was already weakened to a big degree explained in the first page(he also doesn't scale due to him not being pure Vibranium and being a mixture of things)
He literally only has two showings against Thanos one where he's slammed down and one where he's able to get up from a blow from his sword so there's an equal amount of evidence for both what tips panther over the edge I'd say is the extra addition which shows director and writer intent of how they perceived T'Challa's suit in endgame and it's abilities plus he's also not even considered for the upgrade due to his suits unique properties that regular Vibranium things don't have.
Non canon
Anything else? preferably from someone who's read the thread and can add actual non redundant input
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The dialogue implies that he would crack the entire thing, or at least a large portion of it.
I read it, and literally doesn't matter a single bit of him being weakned because that part of his body was perfectly fine. You are also the one to make the premise"ALL VIBRANIUM IS EQUAL" and try to upgrade Vision accordingly from this, but now you are backing down from this.
If that the case then you gotta remove Vision's section from the OP if he ain't getting a revision.
This extra addition is non-canon, and the fact that it was written off by the makers means that they could have changed opinions about BP's suit capabilities.
Even then, it would not be 6-C, Hulk is weaker than Thanos by a notable margin and it took multiple hits to overcharge Tchalla's suit just to take out a single leviathan, monsters that are taken down by weaker versions of Hulk and Thor...
First, really, talk about non canon, second don't talk to me like that, you come off condescending and unprofessional.
Third, I read the thread, but I'm formating my arguments over the OP, the other users I don't care much except for what KLOL said about the spire that is useful for me.
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It literally wasn't he left mid getting repaired and having the mindstone synapses being severed from his head that was the literal plot in wakanda ,his heads insides were being deconstructed and the mindstone was being severed but he left before it could be completely done
This isn't new? the vision scaling was backed down on much earlier in the thread thanks to information from Qawsedf
And it may be but when you say things like "now you're backing off" and saying things that have been discussed in full as you did it clearly shows you haven't read the thread as that's(vision) something that was dealt away with on the first page and agreed to not scale to vision normally. I can update the OP but don't treat the discussions under my thread as anything less than important and only acknowledge the bits you find from specific users when all the input and effort put in is equally valid and important
Ofc it's non canon and I agred myself that it wasn't used in the final product and things changed however T'Challa' was never going to be 6-C to begin with we're simply discussing the properties of Vibranium and proving that it scales relative to each other which so far what we've shown isn't contracted in any way
Even if that was the case we see when it's falling that entire pieces later on and the spire are undamaged and completely intact even when he teamed up with Iron man so I think that is a clear show of what I've said
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on the leviathan bit that was probably a scraped worm leviathan variant(seeing as it comes out of the ground) like the rest of these
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The upper left one looks like an armored female MUTO
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Ok so is this getting accepted or?
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Bump?
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Bump
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I like it
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Ok so know can we finalize this?
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Yeah all the points have been clarified and there's no more arguements this should be finished
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Should we @ ant or something?
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I suppose so or Qawsedf since he was involved here a lot as well
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Ok then you do it since idk how to @ people
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@Qawsedf234 can this be applied since there are no more arguements and people seem to still agree
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Oh okay that was a flop lol and thanks
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Assuming that you have universal agreement, sure. Though as before any changes to someone like Ultron need a disclaimer somewhere about their durability.
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Seeing as how the last arguement made against it was countered and debunked and there's been no more disagreements since then I believe so
Yes I remember you saying I would need to note that on his profile
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im making the edit to ultron, would it be fine to link the thread in his durability?
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In the note it would be just "As decided in this thread"
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alright the edit is done, hopefully the note is acceptable and this can be closed
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Alright should we close this now or?
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