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This is thread of all compiled MCU Vibranium feats to hopefully make another upgrade to the MCU and prove definitively that all Vibranium is in fact equal in terms of strength and durability, this extends from things such as Captain America's shield which we already accept as 6-C to things like Visions Vibranium body as so forth.



Addressing potential Anti-feats​


The Battle between Corvus Glaive and Vision​



Before we get into the feats for vibranuim let’s start with addressing and debunking these “anti-feats”(more like misconceptions) like Corvus stabbing vision

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Some people see this as an anti-feat for Vision and vibranuim respectfully when in actuality it is just a feat for Courvus’s spear and not an anti feat. Courvus’s spear has never been shown to struggle or been unable to pierce there anything lesser then vibranuim, plus his spear is made out of an unknown alien metal and we’ve seen from other species that there are metals comparable if not outright superior to vibranuim such as uru metal for example from the Asgardians. I also highly doubt the Russos wouldn’t use an extermaly powerful weapon to pierce through a constantly strong metal and one of the most powerful characters in the MCU. We also see that Thanos used Corvus Glaive's glaive to kill Heimdall who was better physicals than Corvus does himself, and to put the finally nail in the coffin it has even been shown to block and deflect a mind stone blasts


Captain America's Shield and Black Panther​


Now to get these feats started off even early on in the MCU we saw Captain America's shield no-sale's a hit from Mjonir (noted this is a blow delivered from pre-awakened Thor) an impressive feat for the Vibranium shield even early on in the verse. Moving forward into another phase with the introduction of T'Challa and Wakanda technologies that Black Panther is capable scratching Cap's shield with vibranium claws showing that vibranium is in fact relative or equal. We also see much later on that Black panther is capable of surviving a blow to the head from Thanos’s sword in his Vibranium suit and getting up as if nothing happened. Even before this we see Mjolnir Cap using the shield along with Mjonir to combo against Thanos, he wouldn't be casual ( as he's moving to save Thor and stop a near bloodlusted Thanos) so that's the Shield tanking a 6-C attack it's also worth noting Thanos was bruised and bloodied after this assault. It's also worth noting that even now we rate Captain America's Shield like this "At most Island level with Vibranium Shield (Endured multiple attacks from Thanos, who could only destroy half of the shield with his helicopter blade after multiple strikes)" which further goes to show Vibranium being relative. This is a bit of a smaller scale feat but still worth noting that Vibranium Wings and Shield allowed Sam(Captain America) to no-sale and absorb the impact of a crashing Helicopeter without even flinching.



Ryan Meinerding, the Head of Marvel Studio's Visual Department, shared some initial concept art of Thanos fully destroying Cap's shield yesterday. Today, he shared an additional piece of the same scene and elaborated on how it would have worked. Marvel fans know that the shield is made of vibranium, which is one of the strongest metals in the Marvel universe. Reducing it to pieces would have taken a lot of force, but Meinerding explained he "imagined that Thanos weakened the shield by a consistent barrage of crazy strong blows and the Vibranium finally couldn’t absorb any more energy and shatter


In a canon MCU comic we also see Black panther being shot with Vibranuim bullets piercing his suit as well, showing it to be relative if not equal.

Feats of other objects made of Vibranium​


The vibranuim spire in Age of Ultron no-selled the destruction of Sokiva without a scratch.







We also see that even smaller pieces of the spire aren't destroyed and have remained intact after Sokovia's destruction

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Extra addition

This is a little out there but there's also still this visual while not implemented in the final product of the films still shows the intent of the writers and directors as a display of Vibranium's capabilities through Black Panther in endgame showing him chlashing blows with the hulk gaining the kinetic energy needed to one shot a leviathan.

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That's about all and the conclusion from this again is that all Vibranium in the MCU is equal to if not relative to being "at most 6-C" and the scaling should change as such​


Important note: Vision and T'Challa's Vibranium suit DO NOT SCALE IN THIS REVISION THEY WILL NOT BE UPGRADED TO 6-C, Vision isn't made entirely of pure Vibranium and is a compound but is still worth note same as T'Challa whose second suit is made specifically to store more kinetic energy than normal Vibranium and as such should have better properties than normal Vibranium allowing it to not need to necessarily be as strong as the attacker yet absorb more energy and impact moreso than say captain America's shield.
 
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also fixed the OP a little its "at most 6-C" now same as captain america's shield
 
This makes no sense tho. The reason characters are 6-C is because they scale above high 7-A+ feats from top tiers like Thor. So why would all the 7-Bs be 6-C for that?

I got no problem with 7-A+ but 6-C? Nope. That’s super circular.
 
This makes no sense tho. The reason characters are 6-C is because they scale above high 7-A+ feats from top tiers like Thor. So why would all the 7-Bs be 6-C for that?

I got no problem with 7-A+ but 6-C? Nope. That’s super circular.
This isn't anything to do with AP btw and nor does this have anything to do with all 7-Bs so explain how this is circular, the scaling is still intact as far as I see
 
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Maybe only Cap's shield should be 6-C while normal vibranium would be 7-A+, since the spire tanked the destruction of Sokovia unscathed and FRIDAY stated that Thor on his own would have been able to crack the spire without outside help.
 
Maybe only Cap's shield should be 6-C while normal vibranium would be 7-A+, since the spire tanked the destruction of Sokovia unscathed and FRIDAY stated that Thor on his own would have been able to crack the spire without outside help.
I'm willing to compromise high 7-A+ durability for Vibranium but right now I'm going to stick with what's being proposed and wait for more input
 
Maybe only Cap's shield should be 6-C while normal vibranium would be 7-A+, since the spire tanked the destruction of Sokovia unscathed and FRIDAY stated that Thor on his own would have been able to crack the spire without outside help.
Maybe, but cap’s shield isn’t anything special compared to other pieces of vibranuim, the only difference is it was forged into a shield and as for the spire stuff Friday never stated how many hits it would take to break it(considering it was unscathed after a lighting amped hit from Thor)
 
Actually, how do we address Thanos breaking a large hole in Vision's forehead to obtain the Mind Stone (Here at 3:56)? He clearly doesn't put as much effort into that compared to breaking Captain America's shield, which he needed multiple strikes from his sword to do.
 
Actually, how do we address Thanos breaking a large hole in Vision's forehead to obtain the Mind Stone (Here at 3:56)? He clearly doesn't put as much effort into that compared to breaking Captain America's shield, which he needed multiple strikes from his sword to do.
Thanos would still be stronger than Vision and any other thing made out Vibranium that's what the "at most" is for however if we take these words into account
the Vibranium finally couldn’t absorb any more energy and shatter
We know Vibranium can only endure so much before it's easily able to be broken and throughout the entirety of infinity war Vision was injured and also left mid repairs (the same one's where his head was being dissected and he had synapses to stone being severed by shuri) he never had time to recover and was brought back by thanos to the state right before the stone exploded so he was still not in good shape when he was dealt with and the stone was taken
 
Actually, how do we address Thanos breaking a large hole in Vision's forehead to obtain the Mind Stone (Here at 3:56)? He clearly doesn't put as much effort into that compared to breaking Captain America's shield, which he needed multiple strikes from his sword to do.
Thanos cut through cap’s sheild in like the first direct hit, he probably only exerted effort in hacking the rest of the shield in half and even that is arguably since he seemed pretty pisst and bloodlusted
 
Thanos cut through cap’s sheild in like the first direct hit, he probably only exerted effort in hacking the rest of the shield in half and even that is arguably since he seemed pretty pisst and bloodlusted
He couldn't cut through it completely in one swing tho, and he could only take out large chunks of it after 3 continuous hits while exerting quite a bit of effort.
 
Maybe only Cap's shield should be 6-C while normal vibranium would be 7-A+, since the spire tanked the destruction of Sokovia unscathed and FRIDAY stated that Thor on his own would have been able to crack the spire without outside help.
You got the statement for that? It could lead to a further upgrade
 
I disagree with Ultron and Vision scaling in durability as well, as it leads to circular scaling like stated above. Either we don't scale them to At most 6-C duration or anyone who harmed them is an outlier
 
You got the statement for that? It could lead to a further upgrade
It's right at the "Keep the atomic action doubling back" statement

FRIDAY: The anti-gravs are rigged to flip. Touch them, they'll go full reverse thrust. The city's not coming down slow.

STARK : Spire is vibranium. If I get Thor to hit it...

FRIDAY : It will crack. That's not enough. The impact would still be devastating.


Nothing about this indicates that Thor's true strength would be cracking the city, but rather it would be cracking the vibranium spire itself, it's as direct as it gets. So the downgrade really was never accurate to begin with.
 
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We know Vibranium can only endure so much before it's easily able to be broken and throughout the entirety of infinity war Vision was injured and also left mid repairs (the same one's where his head was being dissected and he had synapses to stone being severed by shuri) he never had time to recover and was brought back by thanos to the state right before the stone exploded so he was still not in good shape when he was dealt with and the stone was taken
All good points! Going by that, something that could help support Vision having 'At most 6-C' durability normally is that even during Infinity War he can still take a semicasual hit from Cull Obsidian (start of this video) that knocked him back without sustaining any further visible damage he didn't already have before.
 
I disagree with Ultron and Vision scaling in durability as well, as it leads to circular scaling like stated above. Either we don't scale them to At most 6-C duration or anyone who harmed them is an outlier
Who would go into that though because as much as I've been seeing no one really has Vision listed on their scaling for AP and should we take it to High 7-A then. Also Ultron was melted by concentrated beams so that doesn't really go against durability that's a heat resistance feat.
Would SWORD being able to dissect Vision's corpse count as an Anti-Feat?
I don't believe so since this is years after Wakanda opened themselves to the world and as far as we know there's no reason for people outside of wakanda to not have access to it if they can afford it
 
It's right at the "Keep the atomic action doubling back" statement

FRIDAY: The anti-gravs are rigged to flip. Touch them, they'll go full reverse thrust. The city's not coming down slow.

STARK : Spire is vibranium. If I get Thor to hit it...

FRIDAY : It will crack. That's not enough. The impact would still be devastating.


Nothing about this indicates that Thor's true strength would be cracking the city, but rather it would be cracking the vibranium spire itself, it's as direct as it gets. So the downgrade really was never accurate to begin with.
Downgrade?
 
He couldn't cut through it completely in one swing tho, and he could only take out large chunks of it after 3 continuous hits while exerting quite a bit of effort.
True, but there is also a difference in how he damaged the vibranuim, with vision he was pulling out the mindstone while with cap he was trying to activatlly damage cap’s shield and considering vibranuim is mostly know for absorbing and dispersing kintetic from hits I don’t think it’s to far to say it would be easier to pull stuff out of vibranuim then try to break it via force
 
Who would go into that though because as much as I've been seeing no one really has Vision listed on their scaling for AP and should we take it to High 7-A then
Vision is able to harm those who can harm him, in the form of White Vision. Ultron could harm Vision. Thor could take blows from Ultron. Hulk is able to smash Ultron. Wanda is able to casually tear out Ultron's heart. This would mean a lot of these characters would be in the At most 6-C to High 7-A+ range. Who are even higher than their God tier counterparts. And scaling the God tier stuff above them leads to circular scaling.

I don't think it's a good idea to scale people off of God Tier feats
 
It's right at the "Keep the atomic action doubling back" statement

FRIDAY: The anti-gravs are rigged to flip. Touch them, they'll go full reverse thrust. The city's not coming down slow.

STARK : Spire is vibranium. If I get Thor to hit it...

FRIDAY : It will crack. That's not enough. The impact would still be devastating.


Nothing about this indicates that Thor's true strength would be cracking the city, but rather it would be cracking the vibranium spire itself, it's as direct as it gets. So the downgrade really was never accurate to begin with.
It would probably take a ridiculous amount of effort time and power to crack it considering the spire tank Thor’s hit unscathed and double backed
 
Vision is able to harm those who can harm him, in the form of White Vision
This doesn't really matter since white vision uses the original Vibranium body which doesn't mean much.
Ultron could harm Vision.
Ultron doesn't harm vision at all it's even noted on his profile that Vision is left unscathed by Ultron's attacks. Ultron scaled to harming thor not vision.
 
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