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Due to the recent thread regarding void feats, is it possible to restore Alien X's Infinite speed for moving in the Forge of Creation, a place where time doesn't exist? Or does this still not count?
 
I think that it can be restored for the sake of consistency, yes. It is their natural habitat after all.
 
The only statement we have on the FoC is that it's out of sync with the rest of time. There's no statement that it exists outside of time.
 
@The Everlasting

Thank you for the clarification. Should we close this thread then?
 
What about this scene ? Is it okay ? Just ask.

Alien X Recreates The Universe (1080p Full HD)
Alien X Recreates The Universe (1080p Full HD)


Void - Checked

Timeless - Checked
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
Plus the omnitrix is able to timeout in the Forge of Creation. Kinda impossible if time wasn't really there.
Well TBF it only timed out because Ben got knocked out, not because it reached the limit. Secondly, IMO the reason why the main characters could really do anything was because Paradox arranged for 'life support'
 
Well TBF it only timed out because Ben got knocked out, not because it reached the limit. Secondly, IMO the reason why the main characters could really do anything was because Paradox arranged for 'life support'

Im not referring to this actually.

In the episode with the baby Alien X and someone trying to take his power (forgot who) Kid Ben from the past is brought back for this episode by Paradox. Even while inside the FoC kid ben's omnitrix's time out limiter was still in effect and timed out like usual. That shouldve been impossible if there was no time present.
 
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Was it the scene where he went Heatblast? If so, they weren't in the FoC at the time IIRC, they were surrounded by the chrono/chronal randomization barrier (or something along those lines), which is something not remotely native to the FoC. AFAIK that area was just sort of a passage way. They entered the nebula, then the area with the CRB, and then entered through another area or two before reaching the FoC.

You'll see it starting from 11:54. If you wanna start watching from the Heatblast scene then it starts at 10:32
 
Was it the scene where he went Heatblast? If so, they weren't in the FoC at the time IIRC, they were surrounded by the chrono/chronal randomization barrier (or something along those lines), which is something not remotely native to the FoC. AFAIK that area was just sort of a passage way. They entered the nebula, then the area with the CRB, and then entered through another area or two before reaching the FoC.

You'll see it starting from 11:54. If you wanna start watching from the Heatblast scene then it starts at 10:32

He also timed out with four arms
 
Well that isn't the scene I'm referring to (I'm referring to when he went Stinkfly) but I'll address it anyways.

Even if they were just in the passage way it should not matter. The chrono radomization barrier is what makes the entire FoC out of sinc with time In the first place, Paradox even explains this.

Even then, when Kid Ben got turned into Stinkfly by teen ben and then Aggragor beat him, kid bens omnitrix turned him back into human and had the red glow on it to show it timed out and needed to wait on a recharge. You can even see its red at 17:00 and kid ben himself said it timed out. So yes, kid bens omnitrix timed out, which should still be completely impossible if there was no time present in the FoC.
 
But he usually gets knocked out of his transformation once he's sufficiently damaged, and watch recharges.'Timed out' is just the term Ben constantly uses when the watch is in the red. Kid Ben probably could care less if he messed up something like that in such a dire situation imo. Even regular Ben probably wouldn't care much. Kid Ben might not have realized or understood what was happening (though he does have that innate time knowledge thingy). If you're refering to the fact that the watch could still recharge for the required amount of time it needed to then I can agree with that.

However, the watch was still in the red even at the time where Kevin almost attacks Kid Ben for calling him out on his behaviour and when Gwen kisses him goodbye. Besides, Paradox said he arranged for 'life support' and is probably the reason the team could even move without requiring immeasurable speed (if I understand what that is enough).

In the OV finale, Ben and Rook literally travelled back to before time began to flow. It is even explicitly referenced and Maltruent couldn't even use his time powers. Yet, Ben timed out twice (once before the Big Bang and again after Feedback blew Maltruent up)
 
Is this thread leading anywhere, or should I close it?
 
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