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Akame Upgrade (Which will upgrade most of the verse as well)

Lina Shields said:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Lina_Shields/HeRe_CoMeS_tHe_BoOm
Updated the calc according to changes. Other than that, your above proposal sounds fine, especially scaling Tatsumi to Zank who managed to take on Akame for a brief amount of time.

What is Najend rated as currently? She should at least be comparable to Leone for beating Rokugoh (whip user), who Leone had trouble with.
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She had trouble for 1) It being a former general and she wasn't used to the technique 2) Najenda said his moves were ingrained in her brain from their many years of training together.

As for Tatsumi, we wouldn't get scaled to Zanku because he never actually did anything besides scracth him on the cheek. He got man handled the whole time. Small Town level Tatsumi just sounds wrong to me.
 
Lina Shields said:
Edit: There is a rather weird part of the page before the explosion occurs; Bors seems to have enough time to hide somewhere/get some distance to protect from the explosion apparently.

Bors' durability should be rated as "Town level, higher via extra protection (Managed to stop a direct stab from Akame with his palm guards)"

If all else, I will check over all the AgK pages and fix their tiering accordingly, although there shouldn't be too much to fix.

Meanwhile, where do we place base Bulat? Perhaps Small Town level? He managed to take on Liver, a General-class opponent without his armour; he should likely be physically stronger than Najenda, who is >= Leone.
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Bols didn't hide himself. He dropped on the ground and hunkered down.

Alright, I agree.

Bulat should be Town level, as she should at least be as strong as Akame, if not more so.
 
Nah, base Tatsumi should not be scaled to Zank as Zank was merely toying with him, yet Tatsumi almost died.

I agree with Bulat being Town level via being stronger than Akame. He is a general-class soldier after all.

Meanwhile, I will calc the ratio of surface area for Leone and Bor's explosion. I'll calc Leone's durability from there.
 
Lina Shields said:
Meanwhile, I will calc the ratio of surface area for Leone and Bor's explosion. I'll calc Leone's durability from there.
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Leone is scaled to tanking Budo's lightning.
 
Okay, now I've come to conflicting theory. Wave scales to Susanoo launching him (Town level durability). Syura fought and was able to harm Wave, which would make him Town level in AP and Durability. Wave was in turn able to knock Syura out, which would make him Town level AP. In which case, Susanoo never should have been able to launch him away.
 
No, not yet. There is still Mine that I need to cover. I will conclude this thread after all the upgrades are completed.
 
Lina Shields said:
No, not yet. There is still Mine that I need to cover. I will conclude this thread after all the upgrades are completed.
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Small Town normally

Higher with Danger

Small City with Maximum Danger?
 
Now, regarding Budo, this calculatio places Budou at City level.

The minimum value for Budou's Solid Shooter yields about 44.12 Megatons of TNT. That is a solid City level feat (pun intended). We also know that Mine's final pumpkin blast >> Budo's Solid Shooter.

Budo's Solid Shooter was also done when Budo was weakened. This was show [here http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kHGVir6YVLQ/VMi-eZiG6AI/AAAAAAACEmo/rev2B7hFEDw/s0/042.png].

As for Mine, this will be covered in a separate blog, where we will discuss Mine's AP.

However, Seryu should be most likely be Low 7-C via scaling from members of Jaegers as well as Night Raid. She did trade blows with Sheele after all. Mine's durability would scale to this.
 
Lina Shields said:
However, Seryu should be most likely be Low 7-C via scaling from members of Jaegers as well as Night Raid. She did trade blows with Sheele after all. Mine's durability would scale to this.
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Problem with this is her suicide bomb. How do we scale that?
 
I made a blog post regarding Mine here. This may give some stat changes to Mine.

As for Seryu's suicide bomb, I would just place it at Town level since it was basically Seryu's trump card, thus it would be much stronger than Seryu's other weapons.

Seryu's AP should be: "Low 7-C normally, At least 7-C via Suicide Explosion and Hekatonkheires"

  • Note that we cannot scale Mine's durability to Hekatonkheires since Koro never managed to land a blow on her, even in Koro's berserk mode.
Mine's durability should just be Low 7-C since she took numerous blows from Seryu and survived.

And yea.

Edit: I am still unsure about that Bols explosion calc. Do we even calculate Leone's durability like that? I don't remember a case where we used the surface area ratio to figure out a character's durability from a point blank explosion..
 
Akame Ga Kill Tiering Proposal

Do I really have to make a post about this? Anyways...

Group 1: Najenda, Leone, Sheele, Tatsumi [Base Incursio], Zank, Liver, Daidara
Attack Potency: At least Small Town level

Striking Strength: Class TJ

Durability: At least Small Town level

  • When Zank made Akame really angry, he became completely helpless at that point. I do not think that Zank was comparable to Akame in that fight when Akame became serious...
Group 2: Lubbock, Base Tatsumi, Base Wave, Mine, Syura, Nyau the Flute Ma
Attack Potency: Likely Small Town level

Striking Strength: Class TJ

Durability: Likely Small Town level

Group 2: 4 Rakshasa Demons, Seryu, Izou, Enshin, Champ, Ru
Attack Potency: At least Small Town level

Striking Strength: Class TJ

Durability: At least Small Town level

Akame, Kurome, Wave [Grand Chariot], Susanoo
Attack Potency: Town level, likely higher

Striking Strength: At least Class TJ

Durability: Town level, likely higher

  • Akame traded blows with Esdeath. That is a major plus compared to all the other Night Raid members, such as Leone and Najenda who died in a single shot.
  • Kurome is comparable to Akame during their duels, before she was injured by Chelsea.
  • Wave with Grand Chariot is comparable to Akame. Not to mention he matched blows with 2nd Form Incursio for a brief time and survived.
  • Susanoo is likely comparable to Akame here as he was hinted to be one of the strongest members of Night Raid when he joined in. Not sure where his evolved form stands however...
Bols
Attack Potency: Likely Town level physically. Much higher with Rubicante

Striking Strength: At least Class TJ

Durability: Town level, higher with extra protection

  • Bols deflected a stab from Akame with his palm guards
  • Bols is likely physically comparable to Akame, being able to match her strength as well as being a massive guy in general.
  • Bols' Purgatory: Rubicante should have much higher AP compared to his physical AP seeing that it ended up being Large Town level AP when he blew it up!
Others

  • Budo and Gensei's tiering are correct.
  • Chelsea and Dorothea aren't really physical fighters. Not sure where to place them.
  • All of Kurome's puppets should be Small Town level, at minimum. The whip guy gave Leone and Najenda a very tough fight. The others gave Tatsumi and Mine a really tough fight.
  • I mentioned Seryu's tiering with Hekatonkheires in my above post.
I will update more on this post later. Meanwhile, if you have any questions, feel free to ask. Apologies for the double post. However, it would be very much appreciated if we could get this upgrade on the way.
 
First, a little error when it comes to the names. Lubbock is listed twice in Groups 1 and 2. I've already taken care of Dorothea. Bols seems right. I hesitate to put Run at Small Town level, as I don't really see them on the same level as the others. Zanku should be added to Town because he actually cut Akame. Other than that, it sounds good to me. I'll go on Kurome's profile sometime soon and create tabber profiles for her puppets
 
@Drellix: Your reasoning sounds okay. However, where should Run be placed at?

Keep in mind that Run gave the Night Raid members a match during both of their confrontations, once against the Night Raid members on the flying manta thing, and the other against Akame only. I do not see a reason that Run is that much inferior to the other Jaeger members. He should be Syura at least.
 
Lina Shields said:
@Drellix: Your reasoning sounds okay. However, where should Run be placed at?
Keep in mind that Run gave the Night Raid members a match during both of their confrontations, once against the Night Raid members on the flying manta thing, and the other against Akame only. I do not see a reason that Run is that much inferior to the other Jaeger members. He should be Syura at least.
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I don't recall any fight between Akame and Run by themselves. As for Run fighting Night Raid on the Manta, he didn't fight them. He shot a couple feathers at them and killed the Manta.

I propose MCB Run, possibly Small Town level
 
@Drellix

I mean, Run threw down with Esdeath in a brief exchange of hand-to-hand, so he should be at least somewhat comparable to Base Wave and Tatsumi.

The rest look reasonable enough. Though I wonder if base Tatsumi and Wave should be higher, since Wave was able to restrain Kurome somewhat and Tatsumi is on par with him.
 
Reppuzan said:
@Drellix
I mean, Run threw down with Esdeath in a brief exchange of hand-to-hand, so he should be at least somewhat comparable to Base Wave and Tatsumi.

The rest look reasonable enough. Though I wonder if base Tatsumi and Wave should be higher, since Wave was able to restrain Kurome somewhat and Tatsumi is on par with him.
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No, he shouldn't. That was him parrying her blows and she was not even enough strength to cause them any serious.

I don't recall Wave restraining Kurome. And they are leveled right. If they went any higher, we'd have to upgrade Incursio base which would then pretty much upgrade the whole verse again. They have the right rankings. Remember, Base Wave was almost killed by Susanoo.
 
Okay then, I must have remembered those scenes incorrectly.

Otherwise I really have nothing to add.
 
I'm kinda lost.

1) From where it comes the Small Town level?

2) Why is almost every single character scaled?
 
1) It comes for the fact that most of the AGK characters are under Akame, who is Town level

2) Number 1 answers this
 
I really don't know much about AGK, so it's not like I can note a lot on whether or not this is accurate, but, from my understanding, it seems okay?
 
Well, after searching for asnwers...

I've a few issues. Some of the characters scaled to this, shouldn't be scaled.

Those are:

Najenda: (Yeah, she fighting against a puppet seems an Outlier) she has barely showed feats in the whole series.

Enshin: (Again, zero feats whatsoever, a better stat could be unknown)

Mine: Her durability should't be changed. Mine is probably is like the second weakest character (physically) only above Chelsea who is most likely the weakest.

Syura: Wasn't he killed by two hits of Lubbock?...

That's all i need to say.
 
KamiYasha said:
Syura: Wasn't he killed by two hits of Lubbock?...

That's all i need to say.
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No, he wasn't. Lubbock broke his neck with the wires he had in his mouth.
 
Run MCB/Town seems fine cuz he trade blows with Akame during the Religion Arc. Run stated that its feather could harm Akame if he wasnt too high
 
Okay, let's roll this underway. Najenda gets her rating from:

  • Defeating the whip user that Leone had trouble with, and fighting alongside Night Raid against Esdeath in Chapter 41. It also didn't take too many blows from her to permanently put down Rokugoh (whip user)
  • Rokugoh, being an actual general-class, should be stronger than the gorilla that Tatsumi (who scales from Leone) was facing against, who tanked numerous blows from base form Incursio.
  • Didn't she fight Akame for a time before offering Akame to join her group?
Thus, Najenda >= Rokugoh >= Leone and Base Incursio. Leone also has a Small Town level durability feat, thus everyone scales from this (considering Leone is the Yamcha of the series)

Also, I remember Mine going hand to hand combat during her practice with Akame, so Mine's not completely helpless in close combat.
 
Akame shouldn't get the upgrade. If she does, we bump Wave up. It's said that if Akame took a single hit from him when they fought, it would be disatrous.
 
Well, I am not familiar with AGK, but Lina's posts seem to make sense.
 
I suggest waiting until the next chapter to see if we see any new feats for Akame, or for Esdeath. We only have to wait about a week at most for this btw.
 
It should be out in roughly 3 days. Depending on how much text is in it though, it could take a day or close to a month to translate.
 
I need to ask. Is Run rated at 8-A due to the fact that he evenly matched Champ in battle?

That being said, it does seem a little odd that Run is rated behind the other members of the Jaegers in terms of AP.
 
Run is by the far the weakest one of the Jaegers. His speciality is not combat but reconnaissance and quick hit and runs.
 
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