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PaChi2 said:
@Yomi
In the anime everything around both Ainz and Shalltear turned into sand/dust. Its described in the novels too.
i dont see it in the anime,i just rewatched the entire episode 12 and not even Einherjar got any notable damage despite literally being in front of ainz when he used the spell.

my memory of volume 3 is quite blurry,Mind posting the the statement?
 
Well, technically iirc it wasnt cry of the banshee, it was The Goal of Life is Death. and I cannot quote it since Im not using my computer.
 
Only with TGOALID was Cry Of The Banshee capable of doing that, anyway, as PaChi2 said, I remember Ainz taking off his resurrection ring during vol 3 because plot reason.

I doubt it would be worse than shalltear's own, who resurrected her from being turned to sand as PaChi2 said
 
The novel itself state that Ainz would be less focused if he can revive several times. The plain in which Ainz and Shalltear fought turned into a dessert was the side effect of TGoALiD + Widen Magic - Cry of the Banshee. It literally kills the entire 200 meter (or whatever the radius is, i forgot) since TGoALiD makes his death hax capable of killing pretty much everything, hence the spell also killing the area they're in. On it's own Cry of the Banshee is just an AoE death spell
 
PaChi2 said:
@Yomi
Ainz has access to Nazaricks treasury (including his companions' items), I dont think that Peroronccino gave to shalltear the only copy ever to exist in Nazarick.
Your not wrong to assume that her creator has another copy deep withing the treasury.

but we can easily intercept that argument since..well....its just an assumption that cab easily be disregarded without any proof to back it up

and i just noticed how this fight has no prep time,even if the guild treasury did have an extra rez item it's still not part of ainz's main arsenal so i dont see how he can bring it in this fight unless the OP says he has it from the start.
 
Yomi Schwarz said:
PaChi2 said:
@Yomi
In the anime everything around both Ainz and Shalltear turned into sand/dust. Its described in the novels too.
i dont see it in the anime,i just rewatched the entire episode 12 and not even Einherjar got any notable damage despite literally being in front of ainz when he used the spell.
my memory of volume 3 is quite blurry,Mind posting the the statement?
"That moment— the world died.

It was not a figure of speech. Everything had died.

In front of his eyes, the Einherjar turned into a white mist and began to crumble. Even the lifeless construct had died instantly. Likewise, Shalltear's kin, succumbing to a power that they could not resist, began to die out.

But it did not end there.

Even the air that was devoid of life died and turned the 200 meter diameter into a space where breathing was impossible. If there had been a being here who needed to breathe in order to live, the dead air would have contaminated the lungs and ended its life.

Not only that, the land died as well. With Ainz at its center, an area measuring 200 meters in diameter instantly turned into a desert. "
 
Fabtastic Glasses said:
And we also know for sure that it'll make him less focused
But he doesnt die, lol. Doesnt matter if he is focused or not here. We know that he doesnt die first attempt.
 
@Yomi I asked Gargoyle if Ainz had access to everything he had, which he agreed to.

Every single item in nazarick.
 
PaChi2 said:
Fabtastic Glasses said:
And we also know for sure that it'll make him less focused
But he doesnt die, lol. Doesnt matter if he is focused or not here. We know that he doesnt die first attempt.
Tbh, ainz would most likely run away after his first death instead of fighting
 
And get killed right after. One could also argue that the ring is destroyed along with him when Accel **** him up and henceforth his capability to revive himself since the ring is no longer there to save him
 
So everyone assumes that Ainz wont even move or something? Becausd I only read Ainz getting automatically slaughtered when, as SBA dictates, he is willing to kill.

At least he will deploy a death spell before dying first time.

@OPMasada we cant have people running away afaik (SBA). Otherwise characters who dont like fighting wouldnt even fight.
 
Depends what death spell. Things like cry of the banshee won't work.

Tbh he won't get a chance to move much if at all. Accel wont drop his guard even if he revived, as shown by the quote yomi posted above

Fab makes sense aswell
 
I don't really know Accelerator, but everyone in this thread seems to be saying he'll instantly go for the kill with vector bullshit

So, assuming he does that, why would Ainz deploy any death spell other than Grasp Heart? It is his most preferred move when fighting someone he doesn't know about, as shown many times within the novel.
 
Ainz being willing to kill doesn't really change what he does in combat as we clearly see what he does while being "willing to kill" in canon. Moreover on someone he literally doesn't know anything about. While Accel at that point is the type of dude who "lol u ded" while Ainz in his willing to kill mindset isn't. Literally almost his every fight in the novel is him being ready to kill yet none of them are in line with what you're saying thus far

Ainz using a valuable item on someone (moreover someone that he doesn't know) is nigh impossible due to his hoarder habit.

Him using time stop + death hax combo is already addressed

Grasp Heart has already been addressed

There's also Accel screwing Ainz alongside his revival ring in his first attack which i've already mentioned before
 
you included pachi in both accel and ainz

So.

Apparently this thread went very well.

You were saying now?
 
with Sandman's vote,this makes 7-1

decisive if that's the case

@Gargoyle Pls do the honors of closing if we are done
 
Yomi.

I can't close threads.

Only remove them.

And so much for us not getting any good out of this.
 
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