Accelerator vs Fugil [Redux]

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

But this time is Platinum Wings

• Speed Equal
• 50 meters apart
• SBA

Badass white hair character:

Same of the above:

Inconclusive:




Reload on Fire GG.

 

[Schnee_One]

Either Fugil Laws or Accel thinks dead

Incon

EDIT: Actually don't know if law can stop High 1C shields

EDIT 2: Forgot law can't defeat Accel because if last thread, so Accelerator probably just kills him

 

[Zaratthustra]

Inconclusive or Fugil outlive.

 

[Ionliosite]

Accy one-shots. But Fugil's law haxes, power nulls, BFRs, and outlives. So Incon at best, stomp at worst.

 

[Schnee_One]

I actually just realized that Law can't affect Accel.

 

[XDragnoir]

Accy one-shots. But Fugil's law haxes, power nulls, BFRs, and outlives. So Incon at best, stomp at worst.

Null isn't working in a H1C shield, and BFR doesn't work.

 

[Ionliosite]

So Accy one-shots, end of thread.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I actually just realized that Law can't affect Accel.

How so

 

[Schnee_One]

The last match ending in Incon

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

The last match ending in Inco

It ended in incon because neither could hurt each other, no?

 

[Ionliosite]

Actually, one important question: Are the vectors even High 1-C in potency (in an offensive way, I know the shield is)? If not, Fugil can grant resistance to Vector Manip.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yes

Now Accel can just think him dead

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Yes
Now Accel can just think him dead

But why would law not work?

 

[Schnee_One]

Like last match Accel can't be effected by something that can't stop High 1C stuff

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Actually, one important question: Are the vectors even High 1-C in potency (in an offensive way, I know the shield is)? If not, Fugil can grant resistance to Vector Manip.

They are not, unless the opponent is High 1-C

 

[XDragnoir]

Actually, one important question: Are the vectors even High 1-C in potency (in an offensive way, I know the shield is)? If not, Fugil can grant resistance to Vector Manip.

Nope, they aren't, but Fugil needs to "grant resistance" before Accel thinks.

 

[Malox1696]

If u mean if he can use an 1hc vector as an attack, yes he can if he can can find a sum of existing vector of that potency

If u mean "are vectors them self 1hc" well the question itself makes no sense as vectors are potency

 

[Ionliosite]

Nope, they aren't, but Fugil needs to "grant resistance" before Accel thinks.

Fugil also only needs to think to grant resistance.

 

[Everything12]

Doesn't Accelerator have his Soul Manipulation in Platnium Wings anyway?

 

[Schnee_One]

Yes

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Like last match Accel can't be effected by something that can't stop High 1C stuff

Except he doesnt attack with High 1-C stuff

 

[Everything12]

Pretty sure the Soul Manipulation should work under High 1-C Laws.

 

[XDragnoir]

Nope, they aren't, but Fugil needs to "grant resistance" before Accel thinks.

Fugil also only needs to think to grant resistance.

Without knowledge he isn't starting with it, and you need proof he can resis 4B vectors.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Pretty sure the Soul Manipulation should work under High 1-C Laws.

The laws are related to only one phase, why would it be High 1-C?

 

[Ionliosite]

Nope, they aren't, but Fugil needs to "grant resistance" before Accel thinks.

Fugil also only needs to think to grant resistance.

Without knowledge he isn't starting with it, and you need proof he can resis 4B vectors.

He started with it without knowledge againts the Azure Division, and he doesn't grant Ouroboros resistance to just vector manip, but to a wide array of abilities listed in the profile (including vector manip). And I don't need to prove anything about 4-B vectors because how does attack potency even matter with that?

 

[XDragnoir]

Resisting vector manipulation from X doesn't mean you resist ot from Y, mainly cause the power has lots of uses, and also because resisting a tier 7 attack doesn't mean you can resist a 4B attack which does the same type of damage.

 

[Ionliosite]

I didn't deny that, I just said it being 4-B means nothing because attack potency has nothing to do with resistance or hax in general.

 

[XDragnoir]

Also, Accel outranges.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Also, Accel outranges.

They start 50 meters apart

 

[Malox1696]

I didn't deny that, I just said it being 4-B means nothing because attack potency has nothing to do with resistance or hax in general.

no it does, same for hax and negation, just cause u resisted a 9c thing that does not mean u could resisy a toer 0 one

same for negation if u negate a power of 9c then u can't just say the same would apply to tier 0

hax too (invulnerability etc)

 

[Ionliosite]

>just cause u resisted a 9c thing that does not mean u could resisy a toer 0 one

That's because of dimensionality, not resistance, totally different things.

 

[Zero0zero0zero]

I think power nulification is currently measured by AP.

 

[Ionliosite]

We're not talking of power null tho, we're talking of Ouroboros being granted resistance to Vector Manip, which is indeed on the profile in case you just joined the thread.

 

[Zero0zero0zero]

I was just passing by, my apologies.

 

[Malox1696]

Resistance is the power to withstand the effects of certain abilities through varying means. The highest degree of resistance is outright Immunity, supposedly making the user in question completely unaffected by such abilities.

Of course, simple resistance to one showing of an ability isn't enough to ignore all uses of that ability, as some applications may be far stronger, while others may work differently, meaning they must be resisted differently. As a result, when resistance is listed on a page, it's important to describe the specifics.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I think power nulification is currently measured by AP.

Its case by case