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This is just resistance to precog. Acausality isn't that.
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Acausality for Han Jee-Han
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Type 4: Irregular Causality: Characters with this type of Acausality operate on a different and irregular system of cause and effect than regular causality. This grants them resistance to abilities such as Causality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, and Precognition, among others.
Han neglects the regular cause and effect of the world.
Han ignored the luck that warps destiny and causality itself and blew off the hand of Cho all the same.
He negates precognition over him.
Han neglects the regular cause and effect of the world.
Han ignored the luck that warps destiny and causality itself and blew off the hand of Cho all the same.
He negates precognition over him.
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Which isn't acausality.
I still want the evidence of this.
Which isn't acausality.
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I posted both the scan of him blowing off the guys hand, and the guys luck literally warping destiny and/or causality.
Neglecting the standard set of cause and effect means that he works by a different set of cause or effect, or none. Both are type 4 Acausality.
Being immune to precognition is one of the default abilities granted by being type 4.
So,you are arguing that instead of Acausality, he resists cause and effect due to not working by cause and effect, and is able to negate Precognition for the same reason.
Neglecting the standard set of cause and effect means that he works by a different set of cause or effect, or none. Both are type 4 Acausality.
Being immune to precognition is one of the default abilities granted by being type 4.
So,you are arguing that instead of Acausality, he resists cause and effect due to not working by cause and effect, and is able to negate Precognition for the same reason.
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Where?
Not really.
True, but having it doesn't equal acausality
I mean, based on what I've seen, I think it's far more solid that he has causality manip, resistance to it, and resistance to precog.
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The only two links to imgur I posted. The part about destiny is talking about the blonde haired guy, who as you can see lost his arm when trying to kill Han.
And, might I ask you what the difference between Acausality type 4 and what you are trying to suggest is?
Han Jee-Han can ignore causality. Not only active manipulation of it, but the default causality of the world. This same ability let's him trump precognition. Instead, he functions by his game mechanics, regardless of those contradicting the laws of the world he is in.
Acausality type 4 is ignoring the natural system of cause and effect in exchange of another, irregular version of it, granting resistance to causality manipulation and Precognition.
Not only the effects of it are the same, the premise is too. "I work by my rules, yours don't matter".
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Eh, if those links were the evidence, then there really isn't anything note worthy there beyond some dude other than Han having fate hax.
For starters, Type 4 Acausals don't have causality manipulation, which is something Han is blatantly showing. Similary, Han doesn't show existing outside of the causality system, which is what Type 4 Acausals do. Those are two of the differences.
So, resistances.
I know what it is, I read the page.
I don't get what point you're even trying to make with this, him having law hax has nothing to do with acausality.
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Having causality manipulation is not proof against Acausality though? Obvious exemple is Desperados, who whole deal is that they pull people into a fate and causality that they decide, but regardless of that it still contradicts nothing.
Type 4 is working by an irregular system. That is to say, you do have a form of system. For Han, the system is his Game like state, where he and those he involves with the skill work by those rules.
Han, besides ignoring lucky guy's luck, literally is stated to neglect the cause and effect of the world. That's working outside of it. Neglecting the law means you are unlawful.
Han Jee-Han is type 4,because as all type 4s,he functions by a set system that directly contradicts the cause and effect of the world. This same ability that makes him neglect cause and effect, is also what allows him to ignore Precognition and causality manipulation, the two default abilities all type 4s get.
Type 4 is working by an irregular system. That is to say, you do have a form of system. For Han, the system is his Game like state, where he and those he involves with the skill work by those rules.
Han, besides ignoring lucky guy's luck, literally is stated to neglect the cause and effect of the world. That's working outside of it. Neglecting the law means you are unlawful.
Han Jee-Han is type 4,because as all type 4s,he functions by a set system that directly contradicts the cause and effect of the world. This same ability that makes him neglect cause and effect, is also what allows him to ignore Precognition and causality manipulation, the two default abilities all type 4s get.
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I never it contradicted anything tho. I don't even know HOW you got I said it was contradiction at all. Not even bothering with the rest of your posts since it is the same argument ad naseum you've been using the whole thread.
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This is such an obvious Type 4 it's a bit....beyond me that a debate is still happening guys.
"It's not that he is acausal, it's that he warps causality to work differently around him and for him, letting him do everything an acausal can." is the perfect summary fo what's happening right now. Come on guys. This is blatant Type 4 it's literally the definition.
"It's not that he is acausal, it's that he warps causality to work differently around him and for him, letting him do everything an acausal can." is the perfect summary fo what's happening right now. Come on guys. This is blatant Type 4 it's literally the definition.
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What an obvious answer for the OP of this Thread...
I agree to the proposition of the Wise Ricis
I agree to the proposition of the Wise Ricis
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I also agree with the OP reasons for Type 4 Acausality for Han Jee-Han
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Eh, he can't do everything an acausal can tho. That's pretty much one of the main reasons this isn't acausality, he doesn't show the main qualification for being Type 4.
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Heyo.
He does though. He works on a different system than normal causality, as he ignores the causality on the scale of a world. That's literally the only thing needed to prove Acausality. And I'm pretty sure Jee-Han did resist the rest, but that's not even the main point here. What matters is that he works in a different system, which he does. My man Ion, we don't even need to prove he ignores Precog and the rest because those come with Acausality. Many characters that have Acausality Type 4 don't need to show the resistance to Precog and such as it automatically comes with the Type 4, they just need to show the latter. And how does Acausality come? By working on a different system of causality. Which Jee-Han does! It's straight up Type 4 my dude.
The only qualification needed for this is to work in a different system of Acausality than normal, which he does.
My man, it quacks like a duck, it looks like a duck, it walks like a duck. It works like Acausality, it looks like Acausality, heck it even resists what Acausality is supposed to grant you - Jee-Han resists Precog, and he literally blew off the arm of a guy whose luck warps causality and destiny for things to turn out well for him, so Fate, Precog and Causality....which is what Acausality grants you the resistances of - which is isn't even needed to grant Acausality. This is one of the most blatant showings of it.
Bud this is straight up Type 4 Acausality.
He does though. He works on a different system than normal causality, as he ignores the causality on the scale of a world. That's literally the only thing needed to prove Acausality. And I'm pretty sure Jee-Han did resist the rest, but that's not even the main point here. What matters is that he works in a different system, which he does. My man Ion, we don't even need to prove he ignores Precog and the rest because those come with Acausality. Many characters that have Acausality Type 4 don't need to show the resistance to Precog and such as it automatically comes with the Type 4, they just need to show the latter. And how does Acausality come? By working on a different system of causality. Which Jee-Han does! It's straight up Type 4 my dude.
The only qualification needed for this is to work in a different system of Acausality than normal, which he does.
My man, it quacks like a duck, it looks like a duck, it walks like a duck. It works like Acausality, it looks like Acausality, heck it even resists what Acausality is supposed to grant you - Jee-Han resists Precog, and he literally blew off the arm of a guy whose luck warps causality and destiny for things to turn out well for him, so Fate, Precog and Causality....which is what Acausality grants you the resistances of - which is isn't even needed to grant Acausality. This is one of the most blatant showings of it.
Bud this is straight up Type 4 Acausality.
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Yes. The general agreement leaned far more towards it being type 4 Acausality, and the other option offered to give all powers granted by Acausality type 4 regardless.
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It isn't Type 4 Acausality tho, it doesn't fulfill the literal requirement given on the page itself.
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That's your claim, sure, but it is not substantiated. The requirement is functioning on a different set of rules. Han functions based on his game mechanics, and those neglect the actual cause and effect of the world.
That is all the requirements.
Stuff like ignoring fate manip and Precognition are not needed to prove it. But, he has them regardless, so not even that is a point of contention.
That is all the requirements.
Stuff like ignoring fate manip and Precognition are not needed to prove it. But, he has them regardless, so not even that is a point of contention.
