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About GER's range

Question, affecting time on a universal scale wasn't high universal instead of universal+? i remember you needing to affect space or the entirety of the timeline to be be universal+
 
Thelastmlg said:
Question, affecting time on a universal scale wasn't high universal instead of universal+? i remember you needing to affect space or the entirety of the timeline to be be universal+
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High 3-A being 4D was abandoned eons ago. Any time hax is assumed being Low 2-C in Range now.
 
StrymULTRA said:
High 3-A being 4D was abandoned eons ago. Any time hax is assumed being Low 2-C in Range now.
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I feel like this is wrong but I'll ask Ultima about it.
 
manu_zarri said:
Don't worry, time haxes aren't Low 2-C automatically.
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Sure but, range-wise I remember being told (and arguing) that Low 2-C requires affecting an entire timeline, and that affecting a portion of it (such as erasing a few seconds of time) is only High 3-A. I'm 99% sure this is still true since I've argued that in front of Ultima a ton without being corrected, but I'll double check just to be sure.
 
Agnaa said:
Sure but, range-wise I remember being told (and arguing) that Low 2-C requires affecting an entire timeline, and that affecting a portion of it (such as erasing a few seconds of time) is only High 3-A. I'm 99% sure this is still true since I've argued that in front of Ultima a ton without being corrected, but I'll double check just to be sure.
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I remember it, but i heard that wasn't applied anymore

also i wonder why it should be High 3-A, like it was similiar to if you affect 10 seconds of a timeline that is maded of years it's High 3-A but if you affect a the entire timeline that is maded of 5 seconds then it's Low 2-C, I really fail to find the logic behind it, because im pretty sure we don't use Fraimwork as Low 2-C proof
 
Requiring characters to affect the entirety of space/time feels like the best we can do in this situation. Since the alternatives are:
  1. Only treat timelines that explicitly have infinite space and time as Low 2-C.
  2. Let any amount of non-zero effect on 4 axes be Low 2-C. Meaning that if you erase a person for 10 seconds that's considered equivalent to erasing an entire timeline.
  3. #2 except they're not considered equivalent, meaning that characters will be stronger/weaker based on how much time debaters can demonstrate has passed in their timeline. "My character's timeline has lasted for 10 billion years and yours has only lasted for 3 billion, mine AP stomps."
 
Agnaa said:
Requiring characters to affect the entirety of space/time feels like the best we can do in this situation. Since the alternatives are:
  1. Only treat timelines that explicitly have infinite space and time as Low 2-C.
  2. Let any amount of non-zero effect on 4 axes be Low 2-C. Meaning that if you erase a person for 10 seconds that's considered equivalent to erasing an entire timeline.
  3. #2 except they're not considered equivalent, meaning that characters will be stronger/weaker based on how much time debaters can demonstrate has passed in their timeline. "My character's timeline has lasted for 10 billion years and yours has only lasted for 3 billion, mine AP stomps."
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1 Timeline should be 3th Spatial Dimensions and 1 Temporal Dimensions, that is basically uncotnable infinite higher than 3D Infinite, according to physic.
2 Low 2-C need universe sized for qualify
3 Actually i remember in Big Bang CRT that we treat every timelines have infinite time so
 
Agnaa said:
Sure but, range-wise I remember being told (and arguing) that Low 2-C requires affecting an entire timeline, and that affecting a portion of it (such as erasing a few seconds of time) is only High 3-A. I'm 99% sure this is still true since I've argued that in front of Ultima a ton without being corrected, but I'll double check just to be sure.
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Welp, after talking to Ultima he said that small-scale 4-D is Low 2-C range but High 3-A AP, and that no-one's dealt with this discrepancy yet.
 
he can't really be above mih considering...MIH is the only being aside from a omnipotent being who can effect the universe the way he does.(and or move as fast)
 
Uhm... what? GER is literally stated to be above any canon stand from Araki himself, also you're implying that from that statement only God is above MiH while nothing hints to that.
 
Thebannanaworkshop said:
he can't really be above mih considering...MIH is the only being aside from a omnipotent being who can effect the universe the way he does.(and or move as fast)
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uh no. i didnt say only god is above Mih. im saying if a omnipotent being is only stated to be comparable or above MIH's control why does ger scaling make sense here?

2.eh? i thought there was some type of omnipotent god in the jojoverse considering part 7 is a thing...is there something that says that there isnt?
 
Thebannanaworkshop said:
uh no. i didnt say only god is above Mih. im saying if a omnipotent being is only stated to be comparable or above MIH's control why does ger scaling make sense here?

2.eh? i thought there was some type of omnipotent god in the jojoverse considering part 7 is a thing...is there something that says that there isnt?
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1-Why would MIH be stronger than GER if GER is stated to be above any Stand lol?
2-Yes, there is God
 
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