Ability Upgrade (Bowser, Mario, Peach, and Rosalina)

[Bluethedragon233]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXGfjyPmCac

At the end of Super Mario Galaxy rosalina states that the universe continually resets itself each time never the same; basically meaning that the Mario Bros. cast (or atleast the ones directly included) infinitly survives universe resets in infinite different ways.

case for acausality (type 1) or (type 4)?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

They haven't shown to be able to survive it though.

 

[Bluethedragon233]

but the cycle reapets none the less and we haven't seen them die from it either; that's why i suggested type 4 (irregular acausality) because rosalina implies they are fated to survive

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Mario and Bowser already have type 1 acausality anyways. Type 4 acausality, nah. Rosalina has acausality listed too though the type isn't specified (I think it's 1 as well).

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

She doesn't though. She just says it happens.

Also we haven't seen them die to it because it never actually happened again on-screen.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I actually don't know where Rosalina got her acausality from. It's just on there.

 

[Bluethedragon233]

She doesn't though. She just says it happens.
Also we haven't seen them die to it because it never actually happened again on-screen.

It's kinda is heavily implied plus the 120 stars secret ending shows her sending the cream colored luma to herself to meet in the past; implying simalr circumstances will happen

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

It's not "heavily implied" either. Also you don't need acausality to survive this anyway. Most other characters also survived this reset, they just were reborn in this universe. Acausality would imply that they'd be the same as their old self after the resets, which we have no reasons to believe would happen.

 

[Bluethedragon233]

I actually don't know where Rosalina got her acausality from. It's just on there.

I mean she is the one who saved the three of them so I would at least give her type 1

 

[Bluethedragon233]

It's not "heavily implied" either. Also you don't need acausality to survive this anyway. Most other characters also survived this reset, they just were reborn in this universe. Acausality would imply that they'd be the same as their old self after the resets, which we have no reasons to believe would happen.

isn't that still acausilty though? it doesn't say you have to keep your memories?

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

You have to not be affected by a reset to have it. If the universes resets and you just so happens to be still a thing in the new universe, you were affected by the reset.

 

[Bluethedragon233]

You have to not be affected by a reset to have it. If the universes resets and you just so happens to be still a thing in the new universe, you were affected by the reset.

But if you can do it consistantly thats an irregular type of acausality? Rosalina said it happens the same way but slightly different everytime, so the key players have to be there. and before your like well we haven't seen it happpen again on screen why not take rosalina's word for it? until we have somthing different on screen that's all we got.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

No it's not.

You're personally interpretting her saying that "it happens the same way" as Mario & Co always being there, when it's not actually hinted to be the case.

Rosalina didn't actually say anything regarding Mario & Co surviving all resets. Even then, the way she words it makes it seems like the universe itself just re-creates Mario & Co each time, not that they brute force their way through it via resistance.

 

[Bluethedragon233]

I mean isn't that still some kind of power just not a complete resistance? is there a different power or is rebirth not a power on the site period?

 

[Bluethedragon233]

But also Rosa has to reset the universe in order to send herself a luma in the past; since she already has acausality listed specify to type 4?

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

They already have acausal type 1

 

[Bluethedragon233]

They already have acausal type 1

except peach for some reason and rosa not specified

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

Maybe rosa is type 1 idk

 

[Omnificence]

Has this been applied yet?