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A triangle fights a purple God of Destruction

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So from what I'm reading from Bill respect threads, he never actually got a 3D body until near the finale. I count 3 scenarios in such threads of "Impressive feats" where he actually did transmutation when he snapped. Heck the very fact that he has so many combat feats yet so little 1-shot feats that you guys seem to insist he has goes against your very argument that he starts out with such.
 
>little 1 shot feats

One shotted the Guardian of Time And Space(not even trying, via a flash), more than half of the zodiac, and most of the people on gravity falls

transmuted a guy with a snap and let out a wave of transmutation upon first appearing
 
Many combat feats? What are you talking about? He fought like, twice, in the entire series, one of which he wanted to torture the opponents and the other of which was against a robot which was protected from his powers, other than that it was just one-shots.
 
In defence of Beerus, whenever Bill Cipher goes for the kill (not bloodlusted) he usually takes a second to act cocky, either making a quip, a joke or doing something random like straightening his bow tie.

On the other hand with Beerus (ignoring beings that are literally infinitely below him) he only really does that stuff with people he either knows, or is invested in (SSJ God prophecy, he hated Zamasu and was "close" to Goku) and the only time we have Beerus have no interest/annoyed in his opponent (like he would will Bill) was in the Dr Slump episode, where he instantly used hakai.

That being said we don't really have any other examples of Beerus, so I personally go for an inconclusive, based on either Beerus pointing or Bill snapping if Beerus decides to use ki attacks instead.
 
Akreious said:
So from what I'm reading from Bill respect threads, he never actually got a 3D body until near the finale. I count 3 scenarios in such threads of "Impressive feats" where he actually did transmutation when he snapped. Heck the very fact that he has so many combat feats yet so little 1-shot feats that you guys seem to insist he has goes against your very argument that he starts out with such.
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Bill literally snapped half the zodiac instantly. He only goes for beat downs or simple moves against human beings he 100% believes he can beat.

Not the same here. Whenever Bill actually considered people or the situation seriously, he either beats them instantly eg. Petrified Stan, transmutated most of the zodiac or one shot the time baby instantly. The time baby is a perfect example because Bill considered him a threat and easily disposed of him with a beam which far surpassed his usual beams on human beings.

So yeah Bill would lead with a stronger move here
 
Tyranno223 said:
In defence of Beerus, whenever Bill Cipher goes for the kill (not bloodlusted) he usually takes a second to act cocky, either making a quip, a joke or doing something random like straightening his bow tie.
On the other hand with Beerus (ignoring beings that are literally infinitely below him) he only really does that stuff with people he either knows, or is invested in (SSJ God prophecy, he hated Zamasu and was "close" to Goku) and the only time we have Beerus have no interest/annoyed in his opponent (like he would will Bill) was in the Dr Slump episode, where he instantly used hakai.

That being said we don't really have any other examples of Beerus, so I personally go for an inconclusive, based on either Beerus pointing or Bill snapping if Beerus decides to use ki attacks instead.
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Beerus, unlike Zeno, has to say "Destroy" for him to use Hakai/Destruction. Bill snapping is much more easier to pull off and less time consuming.
 
'muh snap, muh snap'

We're all gonna ignore when Beerus litteraly snapped and destroyed a time machine he couldn't even see ? and the gap in AP is so big Beerus wouldn't even have to put any effort in it.
 
Dragomer said:
'muh snap, muh snap'

We're all gonna ignore when Beerus litteraly snapped and destroyed a time machine he couldn't even see ? and the gap in AP is so big Beerus wouldn't even have to put any effort in it.
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>AP gap.

Low-Godly says hi. Beerus can only win if he uses Hakai.
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
AP isn't going to help against that Low-Godly Regen, the only thing Beerus has that can actually kill Bill is Hakai.
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AP in dragon ball always overwhelmed Regenerationn.

And no, Bill isn't anymore willing than Beerus, if anything Beerus went for the kill immediatly against everyone he wanted to kill while Bill ****** around again and again.

It was concluded a week ago and it being concluded won't stop the reasoning from making no sense.
 
First of all, Bill has rather easily disposed of anyone that weren't the Pines because y'know. He needed them.

And you can't surpass Godly regen with sheer AP.
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
AP bypassing Regen stops once it gets to Godly, this only works up to High Regen.
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Except that most of the guys with low godly Regen this very site were beaten through AP gap in their own franchise ?
 
Except that most of the guys with low godly Regen this very site were beaten through AP gap in their own franchise ?

Bill was defeated by existence erasure.
 
AP beating Godly Regen means that either the Godly takes way too long to be useful, the character who did so has some ability that allows them to bypass it, or it is just plot induced stupidity. These aren't the case here.
 
Plot isn't an excuse, plot is the reason they also have Regenerationn in the first place or any capacity, if Low Godly is really not supposed to be beatable through AP gap at all, then a lot of characters have it when they shouldn't.
 
This match is already over and the results have been added.

Can someone close this. If anyone has an issue either the result, ask for it to be deleted in the appropriate thread
 
Dragomer said:
Plot isn't an excuse, plot is the reason they also have Regenerationn in the first place or any capacity, if Low Godly is really not supposed to be beatable through AP gap at all, then a lot of characters have it when they shouldn't.
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Plot-Induced Stupidity is something extremely common in fiction, whatever it is you're talking about could very well just be the writer forgetting about the character's Regen, and even if you don't wntto take PIS as an answer, Godly being bypassed by AP can be explained by it taking way too long to be useful, the character who did so has some ability that allows them to bypass it, none of which is the case with Bill, who was beaten by being erased, and even then it might not have completely killed him.

Tl;dr: You can't beat Godly by hitting them really hard.
 
Low-Godly allows you to regenerate from basically nothing except something non-physical

AP only allows you to punch physical things.
 
Edwardtruong2006 said:
Low-Godly allows you to regenerate from basically nothing except something non-physical
AP only allows you to punch physical things.
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You must be new to dragon ball, where AP litteraly allow you to shake nothingness and destroy spacetime.
 
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