a sad attemp to bring Godzilla in Hell back to it's own glorious days

[Chu_Minh_Duy]

nah they won't , don't ever dream about it

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Why would we chance IH Godzilla to unknown when it has a calced High 5-A feat?

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

Because he was stated by the creator to be far stronger than it?

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

Goddammit i forgot WoG is not accepted here...

 

[Chu_Minh_Duy]

told you , they won't accepted it for some stupid reasons

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

Correct me if im wrong,But should not we use a statement or theory which is in the Franchise for some character which does not have an confirmed origins,Like SpaceGodzilla Black hole origins?

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

^I'm pretty sure everyone's been over this. Every. Single. Piece. Of media. Supports. The. Theory. The comics, the games, his actual biography Toho gave through Godzilla VS.

I'm not saying use that to justify yields because it's kind of unquantifiable but denying it at this point is actually idiotic.

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

Agreed,Which is the sense of downplaying a being which origins is supported by every single Godzilla media to a level which is not even half of what he should actually be.

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

And for some reason Godzilla VS SpaceG is accepted as Star Level,But the one from Heisei which origins is basically confirmed and is even showed in the movie is not.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Because of a combination of stupid logic and a lower yield by the CGI of Burning Godzilla's death but it's REALLY close to star level anyway.

 

[AguilaR101]

Because he was stated by the creator to be far stronger than it?

That's not a remotely good enough reason to change the rating to unknown, at best he gets "At least High 5-A, likely higher"

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

Not even the CGI lower yield explanation makes sense,This is like say Majin Vegeta is island level because of his explosion.

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

Unknown characters are characters like Darwin which never have a solid power and are ever changing? If yes so i know im really wrong in this.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

That's not a remotely good enough reason to change the rating to unknown, at best he gets "At least High 5-A, likely higher"

That's really a low end cause GiH scales to literally all previous IDW versions including HCW who's got a few broken feats

 

[WeeklyBattles]

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

The title of this thread is basically what we are doing right now lol.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Ah, Mr. Circular Downplay arrives at last.


How's your day, Weekly?

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

That's not a remotely good enough reason to change the rating to unknown, at best he gets "At least High 5-A, likely higher"

That's really a low end cause GiH scales to literally all previous IDW versions including HCW who's got a few broken feats

Is this confirmed? I thought he was from a completely different universe.

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

"Mr circular downplay" LMAO

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

It's stated before you read the 3rd issue of the comic that it's the greatest battle he ever had. So that's pretty much saying everything else was inferior, regardless of continuities.

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

Now i want a good explanation to why Space G origins is ignored

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

It's stated before you read the 3rd issue of the comic that it's the greatest battle he ever had. So that's pretty much saying everything else was inferior, regardless of continuities.

Is not this vague?

 

[Genericstickman]

I mean universal Heisei might actually exist if I could find the interview

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Perhaps, but considering there's HEAVY implications Godzilla's become universal through the comic and supporting material as well as massively above that through WoG (he'd be High 2A through those if you're curious), I'd say it's a fair claim.

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

Wait,Universal heisei? I NEED to found this!

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

I hate how WoG is not used for more logic some statements sounds.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

That and the statement of "more energy than anything since the dawn of time" for him going boom.


Well I could give you links to other wikis that are objectively better

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

Oh this feat,This actually makes sense.


Im accepting.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Also Super Godzilla if you take the guide it literally as both him and Bagan are declared to be in an entirely different dimension of power (High 3A since that'd be 4D)


https://vsdebating.fandom.com/wiki/Godzilla_(verse)#Power_of_the_Verse https://versus-compendium.fandom.com/wiki/Godzilla_(Composite)#Powerscaling https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Godzilla_(Canon,_Composite)/ZeroTwo64 if you want more, you can ask

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

I knew SuperG was beyond 7-B

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

This characters stats and profiles sounds really good,Do you know more?

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

Well yeah, he's basically a future Heisei Godzilla.


Well these are more of feat threads but https://www.loungeforums.com/vs-general/godzilla-respect-thread-307956/ and then https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/4abq77/respect_godzillagodzilla_in_hell/ https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/7yymv1/respect_spacegodzilla_godzilla/

Some more https://omnibattles.fandom.com/wiki/Godzilla_(Heisei)

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

I think he may be stronger than Burning Godzilla.

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

As you see https://www.tohokingdom.com/vg/super_godzilla/us_manual.html it's specifically mentioned the original version was Heisei info only

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

Interesting

 

[MYHERO]

Ah, Mr. Circular Downplay arrives at last.


How's your day, Weekly?

I would tell you to stop, but Weekly kinda had that coming :/

 

[WeeklyBattles]

What exactly did i do?

 

[Chu_Minh_Duy]

need me to close this ******* threads ?

 

[SuperGodzilla_Kaiju_King]

It's mostly your circular argumentation that bothers me. Point A isn't accepted because of point B being less concrete. Point B is less concrete because point C is lacking evidence. And any evidence for point C is dismissed because it's not relevant to point A. It's really just ad naseum and kind of annoying when I (and others) put in effort to find scans and such things and don't even get valid depth upon reasoning for the denial of the scans.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

When there is no actual evidence or things that directly contradict what is shown, any logical person would deny it, not sure why youre specifically picking on me for using common sense and logic.