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Just having "unique" things, isn't the same as "anything from there isn't valid". The unique things aren't valid, the things that don't contradict that are valid. In fact, Masuda even said "The fact that Pokémon speak their own names in the anime is a point where the anime and the games are different".
Masuda said "basically it’s the same place. Looking at it as a parallel world, or in some select spots being a parallel world might be more accurate.". The "different worlds" are basically the same world (The same setting) with some select spots being something like a "parallel world", points where they differ. Just having "unique elements" isn't enough to say "everything there is unique and shouldn't scale". Both the anime and manga Adventure have a lot of "unique elements", but also a lot of things that works perfectly for the game. For those things, they could (And by what the staff says, they should) scale.
Also, don't know where you got that was the interview that I was using. In fact, I'm not talking about the movie itself, but by the game, an interview with Hiroyuki Jinnai, not with someone from the movie staff. In fact, you seem to ignore the fact that in the interviews that I'm using (again, from the game staff), they made clear that even the uniqueness from the Detective Pikachu story, still had to be within the limitation of the Pokémon world, and that is why they needed to explain how the Pikachu of the game could talk with the main human character.
Of course isn't the common thing, but still is valid in the world. You are right to assume that "Pikachu being able to talk with X character" isn't something that should be in a generic Pikachu profile, because is something unique that needed a explanation for that, exactly because it's unique. But something done by a random Pokémon, without anything unique there, that is something that could still be scaled, because if there's no explanation to say "it's different from the others", then it's assumed to be something that still follows the setting.
Pikachu talking, huge Torterra or even things done by Pokémon infected with R, shouldn't scale to the average Pokémon. However, what Psyduck did is something that follows it setting, so it's assumed to be a faithful representation of what Psyduck can do within that condition, and isn't special like, it needed to drink a special formula to become more powerful.
Also, about the "different world" thing, is something that we need to take in consideration the multiple meanings of the word.
Of course being parallel worlds is also a valid use (After all, it would be rare for anything in the Pokémon world to be taking place in the same universe). However in other cases, it's also referring to just the other regions of the Pokémon world. In the interview with Junnai, he said that the events of the game takes place in a world that is different from the one of the core series, but there are references to the world of the core series to make the player feel that the two are connected (Those being references to the other regions and events from the other games and even anime). In fact even the interviews for the core series has mentions of "different world" or "world of X game", but not as literal parallel universes as we use, but just as a reference to a new story, region or even for being a sequel. In the case with Detective Pikachu, is clear that the intention is it being a "different region from the ones of the core series, that developed its culture and social structure in a way very different from the core series". Is no different from how the Pokémon Ranger series works being in its own regions, that are very different from the core series, but still just regions "far, far away from the region of the core games".
And the movie interviews, lots of them were about how it takes place in a "different world", but as a "different region". Even the interview that you linked is how it's the same universe, just a different said of it. In fact, lots of other interviews are how it's the same world, but just a region far away from the others from the games/anime that it has its own rules, but still the same world.
Even if they were just a "parallel universe that has none of the other regions or characters", it's still bound by the setting rules of how Pokémon works. The whole point of the Detective Pikachu and Magikarp Jump interviews was exactly to show how that was the normal thing for Pokémon, everyone expects to be the same "Pokémon world" and how the Pokémon Company makes everything that can be done to be sure that is what is happening with any spin-off/tie-in product.
Masuda said "basically it’s the same place. Looking at it as a parallel world, or in some select spots being a parallel world might be more accurate.". The "different worlds" are basically the same world (The same setting) with some select spots being something like a "parallel world", points where they differ. Just having "unique elements" isn't enough to say "everything there is unique and shouldn't scale". Both the anime and manga Adventure have a lot of "unique elements", but also a lot of things that works perfectly for the game. For those things, they could (And by what the staff says, they should) scale.
Also, don't know where you got that was the interview that I was using. In fact, I'm not talking about the movie itself, but by the game, an interview with Hiroyuki Jinnai, not with someone from the movie staff. In fact, you seem to ignore the fact that in the interviews that I'm using (again, from the game staff), they made clear that even the uniqueness from the Detective Pikachu story, still had to be within the limitation of the Pokémon world, and that is why they needed to explain how the Pikachu of the game could talk with the main human character.
Of course isn't the common thing, but still is valid in the world. You are right to assume that "Pikachu being able to talk with X character" isn't something that should be in a generic Pikachu profile, because is something unique that needed a explanation for that, exactly because it's unique. But something done by a random Pokémon, without anything unique there, that is something that could still be scaled, because if there's no explanation to say "it's different from the others", then it's assumed to be something that still follows the setting.
Pikachu talking, huge Torterra or even things done by Pokémon infected with R, shouldn't scale to the average Pokémon. However, what Psyduck did is something that follows it setting, so it's assumed to be a faithful representation of what Psyduck can do within that condition, and isn't special like, it needed to drink a special formula to become more powerful.
Also, about the "different world" thing, is something that we need to take in consideration the multiple meanings of the word.
Of course being parallel worlds is also a valid use (After all, it would be rare for anything in the Pokémon world to be taking place in the same universe). However in other cases, it's also referring to just the other regions of the Pokémon world. In the interview with Junnai, he said that the events of the game takes place in a world that is different from the one of the core series, but there are references to the world of the core series to make the player feel that the two are connected (Those being references to the other regions and events from the other games and even anime). In fact even the interviews for the core series has mentions of "different world" or "world of X game", but not as literal parallel universes as we use, but just as a reference to a new story, region or even for being a sequel. In the case with Detective Pikachu, is clear that the intention is it being a "different region from the ones of the core series, that developed its culture and social structure in a way very different from the core series". Is no different from how the Pokémon Ranger series works being in its own regions, that are very different from the core series, but still just regions "far, far away from the region of the core games".
And the movie interviews, lots of them were about how it takes place in a "different world", but as a "different region". Even the interview that you linked is how it's the same universe, just a different said of it. In fact, lots of other interviews are how it's the same world, but just a region far away from the others from the games/anime that it has its own rules, but still the same world.
Even if they were just a "parallel universe that has none of the other regions or characters", it's still bound by the setting rules of how Pokémon works. The whole point of the Detective Pikachu and Magikarp Jump interviews was exactly to show how that was the normal thing for Pokémon, everyone expects to be the same "Pokémon world" and how the Pokémon Company makes everything that can be done to be sure that is what is happening with any spin-off/tie-in product.
