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Goku for better martial arts capabilities, after images, and his adaptability to new techniques in a fight.
 
The reasoning for Wukong's 8-A is very vague. Goku seems to have a very slight advantage in AP but it's very close. Basically this boils down to skills and abilities in which Goku is more versatile than Wukong.

Both are skilled martial artists but Goku has got taiyoken, mimicry, extrasensory perception, afterimage and reactive power level.

The only thing that could pose a challenge here is Wukong's duplication. Is there some kind of limitation to it like in numbers or energy. If yes then it can be exploited.

Until further arguments from Wukong's side, I vote for Goku.
 
Teen Goku's reactive power level isnt combat applicable, and Sun doesnt really have anything Goku can mimic

Sun can only create three copise but other than that no
 
goku can mimic his fighting style and make it better like he did against roshi...goku also fought 4 clones of tien simultaneously...but those clones divided the whole power into 4 parts...if sun can create 3 copies with original power then it will be tough
 
>The reasoning for Sun's 8-A ia vague

He scales from current Blake who is >> Volume 1 RWBY who can overpower 140 tons characters.
 
Thanks for the info but I definitely did not find that much in the profiles.
 
The profile does say that he scales from Blake and Blake's profile does say that she scales from the other members of team RWBY tho
 
Yeah, I only saw that much. Didn't know that the other members can overpower 140 tons characters (I'll also have to check where 140 tons lies in the AP chart lol)
 
And where does Goku stand in the AP chart with respect to Sun?
 
Locked? In the sense that only members with above 25-30 contributions can view that?
 
I would have asked for the link because I am active on NF too and have more than enough contributions. But if Goku via scaling from Tien is more than 2 times higher then I think he could take 3 clones with the help of superior skills.
 
Sun should likely be around the same level AP-wise, the 140 tons feat was from season 1 and everyone has gotten much stronger since
 
Do his clones also retain his original strength? If that's the case then Sun would take this via superior AP and numbers advantage.
 
even if there ap is comparable and sun can make 3 clones...you can't just brush away superior skills...remember goku still has omnidirectional taiyoken which can be used to affect all at once...which can be used with kamehameha and stuff...his sensing ability also helps a lot here
 
@Hrishi Solar Flare wont really help him against clones that are literally just solid light constructs
 
Under SBA Goku does get his Power Pole which is frankly more useful then Sun's pole. Sure it can't shoot but it's range is unreal, Sun won't expect a pole that can extend.

Solar Flare will be pretty helpful here since Sun's never shown any form of sensing like Ren has so he'll be blind by it. Actually doesn't Sun and all Faunus have night vision, wouldn't bright light be more effective?

Goku has the AP advantage but from Weekly said it made not be that far ahead... however!

This is from Kid Goku's profile.

Reactive Power Level (As a Saiyan, Goku grows stronger every time he fights and can become stronger in the midst of combat, vastly increasing in strength whenever he is mortally injured

Damn this is pretty close... but I'll give this to Goku for Slightly Better AP which can increase to be even higher since Sun isn't one shotting him, More Skilled, More Versatile, and Energy Blast.
 
Wukong

>Staff shotgun gives him a huge range advantage

>Superior weaponry overall (Nunchuk shotgun staff>Staff)

>While not AS skilled as Goku, has better usage of his own fighting style and his weapon overall to keep up.

Also, Aura allows him to tank attacks that he might tank.

Also clones.
 
His clones are pretty useless since he has never use them in character against other people. He also rarely moves when using them, the only time he's ever moved with his clones was to jump higher and that's about it.

Any other time he becomes a statue.

The biggest thing is Goku's Reactive Power Level, Goku will become faster and stronger then Sun.

Not only that but Goku has better usage of his abilities compared to Sun. Kamehameha, Power Pole Extend, Solar Flare, and Reactive Power Level
 
Also what does "While not AS skilled as Goku, has better usage of his own fighting style and his weapon overall to keep up."

That makes no sense to me please explain better.
 
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Illiya, Roman, Entire Tournament fight say otherwise.
I thought 8A Goku didn't know the Kamehameha

<Powerpoll

Gets him sniped

Reactive power level isn't helping when you have a massive shield to bypass and Equal AP
 
It's clear you don't watch RWBY. Hever never use his clones against Roman until he went into the mech also you ignore the fact he's never moved.

Illia broke free because Sun gets tired really quick from holding down someone who is 8-A.

He NEVER used his Clones in Volume 3 at all period.

(This is Goku that fought Tien so yes he can use the Kamehameha)

Once again his guns are pretty useless since they're both 8-A it's not killing him. Also Goku's Dura is higher then Sun's AP and it's going to increase during battle.

Unless your going to sit here and tell me Sun one shots.
 
Sun has the range advantage?

Goku: Standard melee range. Hundreds of meters with ki blasts and attacks.

Sun: Extended melee range with Ruyi Bang and Jingu Bang, Dozens of meters with ranged attacks and his Semblance
 
"The biggest thing is Goku's Reactive Power Level, Goku will become faster and stronger then Sun."

Goku's Reactive Power Level is effectively useless as he needs to get fatally wounded and then heal.
 
He's used this ability numerous times throughout the red ribbon arc. Anyways goku should take this for the reasons stated above.
 
This is from Kid Goku's profile.

Reactive Power Level (As a Saiyan, Goku grows stronger every time he fights and can become stronger in the midst of combat, vastly increasing in strength whenever he is mortally injured

You admins added this and agreed on it.
 
Gargoyle One said:
Wukong
>Staff shotgun gives him a huge range advantage

>Superior weaponry overall (Nunchuk shotgun staff>Staff)

>While not AS skilled as Goku, has better usage of his own fighting style and his weapon overall to keep up.

Also, Aura allows him to tank attacks that he might tank.

Also clones.
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Goku's range is better than wukongs

Goku's staff can deflect bullets really easily

Goku is trained in different types of fighting styles, not to mention learned different ways to counter someone's unique fighting style like roshi's drunken fist style.

What???

Poinciana pretty much said that the clones are useless.
 
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