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Based on the current arguments, do you still vote Luffy since your arguments you made were countered later on in the thread?
Knowing Monkey, his vote won't change.
Of course not… wtf. No one countered my arguments… it’s like everyone forgot about Luffy’s abilities wtf… 1. How is Garou landing a hit on Luffy via observation haki? 2. Luffy’s range is ridiculous not something garou can deal with because of Luffys observation haki 3. Luffy will be very unpredictable to garou and will be always surprised on what Luffy is doing 4. Mostly all of Garou’s attacks will feel nothing for Luffy
Garou via Bomb's cutting technique. Luffy has no way to know its a cutting technique to properly block it.
Precog… um bro? Intent sensing… information Analysis… that’s never landing with luffys range and observation haki…
You literally said Garou has never used reactive evolution against someone who had higher AP than him and I blatantly stated that Garou used reactive evolution against an attack that oneshotted him
And Luffy grows in devil fruit power, haki and overall statistics very fast…
Do you think Fishman-Island Luffy would be able to pull off Future Sight under these conditions?
luffys in beginning of time skip can dodge that easily… what are you talking about
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Luffy doesn’t need to do this wtf is this downplay…. That was Luffy LEARNING in a fight against SOMEONE WHO CAN SEE THE FUTURE… and you don’t think he can’t do something like that with garou? The wank is insane

of course still voting Luffy FRA… all they said were either downplaying Luffy, overhyping garou and or completely disregarding Luffy’s abilities
 
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Luffy's fighting style/unpredictability will be light work for Garou.
No it won't... Not even close.... Someone as skilled as Zoro can't predict what luffy is doing.... Luffy creates techniques on the spot that are especially effective against the opponent he is fighting... Just by seeing something random, He can make it into a fighting technique that's effective...

Everyone of Luffy's opponents have always been surprised on what luffy is doing and makes it very unpredictable to his opponent by his creativity...
Not biological regeneration.
It is... In a sbs oda said he could regen his .... Also I remember kingtempest saying it only works on biological or something...
 
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No it won't... Not even close.... Someone as skilled as Zoro can't predict what luffy is doing.... Luffy creates techniques on the spot that are especially effective against the opponent he is fighting... Just by seeing something random, He can make it into a fighting technique that's effective...

Everyone of Luffy's opponents have always been surprised on what luffy is doing and makes it very unpredictable to his opponent by his creativity
It will not work on Garou. He has Adaptability, Reactive Power Level (He rapidly grows stronger when fighting strong opponents), Technique Copying that is practically instant, Instinctive Reaction which causes Garou's body to move on it's own when it's in danger, Analytical Prediction (Can analyze a target's line of sight, posture, and center of gravity in order to predict a multitude of hypothetical movements), Low-Mid Regen which Haki can't negate due to it being Biological Regeneration.

You may be saying that we are downplaying Luffy, but you are also heavily downplaying Garou. Luffy's unpredictability won't work. Luffy's range won't work due to redirection. Neither will his close range attacks. Garou is more skilled than Luffy, so in a h2h fight, Garou has the edge. Garou basically also has observation haki, so Luffy obs won't matter either. Garou doen't even have to block Luffy's attacks. His Instinctive Reaction is enough to handle Luffy's attacks.

Mostly all of Garou’s attacks will feel nothing for Luffy
You are acting as if Armament haki can block anything. Luffy's haki has been pierced or cut many times. here, here, here, and especially here considering this is Fishman-Island Luffy saying it himself. On the flip side, we have Garou, who casually uses attacks like this. This is not even talking about how that attack works. It hits from the inside and shreds you apart. It is Durability Negation.

Garou is also Fire Resistant so Red Hawk wouldn't do much, even if it hit. I don't see Luffy winning this.
Someone as skilled as Zoro can't predict what luffy is doing
Garou is arguably more skilled than Zoro.
 
Instinctive Reaction which causes Garou's body to move on it's own when it's in danger, Analytical Prediction (Can analyze a target's line of sight, posture, and center of gravity in order to predict a multitude of hypothetical movements),
Pre timeskip luffy has these.... His analytical prediction is also very bad as King can't do the things he thought he would do... As well as couldn't predict Saitamas kick...
Luffy's range won't work due to redirection.
It will work because of obs haki, multiple punches and can be supported by haki which makes them extremely harder and heavier... He also can't deflect gear 3rd which is even supported by armament haki.
Garou basically also has observation haki, so Luffy obs won't matter either.
O...m...g, see he can sense/see presence? Sense emotion? Sense intent? Has actually precog?... Stop wanking... Luffy >>>>> Garou in senses and are supported by their profile...
Low-Mid Regen which Haki can't negate due to it being Biological Regeneration.
1. That's weak regen 2. Marco's regen is literally biological...
You may be saying that we are downplaying Luffy, but you are also heavily downplaying Garou
I'm not. Not once did I disregard or downplay his abilities.
Garou doen't even have to block Luffy's attacks. His Instinctive Reaction is enough to handle Luffy's attacks.
No it's not enough... Luffy can literally predict where his body will move and luffy has two types of Instinctive Reaction
You are acting as if Armament haki can block anything. Luffy's haki has been pierced or cut many times. here, here, here, and especially here considering this is Fishman-Island Luffy saying it himself.ac
I was talking about luffy's blunt force resistance... All of them where haki users besides the last one who has incredibly sharp teeth and has higher ap than luffy At least Large Mountain level+ (Consumed at least 2 more Energy Steroids, so he should be at least 4x stronger than before), higher with piercing damage (Can harm characters stronger than him with his teeth), Island level Underwater (Fish-Man Karate's potency is doubled under water) it makes him deactivate his haki because of overpowering... With enough force you can make a haki user deactivate armament by overusing it to much...
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in your scan he also didn't even use Armament
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Dressrosa luffy can handle those types of attacks...
Garou is also Fire Resistant so Red Hawk wouldn't do much, even if it hit. I don't see Luffy winning this.
It explodes on the inside... Doesn't matter if you have fire resistance...
Garou is arguably more skilled than Zoro.
No he's not... He maybe close but not more skilled at all... Garou also lost against Zoro.
 
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Isn't there a rule that prevents you from scaling characters to a non-serious Saitama?
  • Refrain from trying to scale anyone else from Saitama’s attacks, as he is the verse’s god tier and the results of his attacks can be inconsistent.
Saitama is so strong that feats with him in his own verse are outliers to everyone lol.
 
  • Refrain from trying to scale anyone else from Saitama’s attacks, as he is the verse’s god tier and the results of his attacks can be inconsistent.
Saitama is so strong that feats with him in his own verse are outliers to everyone lol.
Exactly. It's like downplaying Saitama if you were to compare him to someone when his real strength was never revealed and that would also give the impression that Saitama isn't as strong as some of fans are trying to make him sound like (we don't want that right?)
 
It's really not. He uses the flame powers of his Devil Fruit.
Damage. Me, king and emit have discussed this before. Even plenty people accepted this a solid Regen Negation feat.

Marco even after taking a punch from Garp, still had a bandage on his head when he was standing in front of Whitebeard's grave. Marco's DF also has another ability that allows him to self healing his wounds which he couldn't. But discussing this any further would just derailing this fight.
 
Pre timeskip luffy has these.... His analytical prediction is also very bad as King can't do the things he thought he would do... As well as couldn't predict Saitamas kick...
It's gag. King is a gag character, that's the point (though you could argue that's his extreme luck in play). Saitama is the fastest in the verse. Stop using Saitama as an anti-feat against Garou, that isn't going to work, especially when Kachon has given you multiple feats AND it's on his page, this isn't going to prove anything.
No it's not enough... Luffy can literally predict where his body will move and luffy has two types of Instinctive Reaction
Luffy only has instinctive reactions from turning off his mind and dodging Enel's attacks, which he doesn't do in character (it's on his page). Luffy does have enhanced senses though.
 
Luffy only has instinctive reactions from turning off his mind and dodging Enel's attacks, which he doesn't do in character (it's on his page). Luffy does have enhanced senses though.
And inept observation haki pre timeskip... Pre timeskip Zoro also has better senses than Garou...
It's gag. King is a gag character, that's the point (though you could argue that's his extreme luck in play). Saitama is the fastest in the verse. Stop using Saitama as an anti-feat against Garou, that isn't going to work, especially when Kachon has given you multiple feats AND it's on his page, this isn't going to prove anything.
Doesn't matter if they are fast... His prediction is just predicting where king can move to... Which weren't even accurate predictions...
 
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One last thing. I think, people are misunderstanding how Marco's Regen works. To him, an Admiral Danmaku was nothing, and said Admiral was forced to seal off his Regen via Sea stone cuff.
 
Instead of saying baseless statements, can you show how please?
Can predict things that blitz him, can sense breath as they are living things and many more... We are not talking about zoro... Go read his profile instead
 
Damage. Me, king and emit have discussed this before. Even plenty people accepted this a solid Regen Negation feat.

Marco even after taking a punch from Garp, still had a bandage on his head when he was standing in front of Whitebeard's grave. Marco's DF also has another ability that allows him to self healing his wounds which he couldn't. But discussing this any further would just derailing this fight.

Okay? I don't really care what you've discussed because it doesn't change the facts.

His regeneration is Devil Fruit-based. Not based on his biological regeneration.

Luffy has taken Haki-imbued attacks and regenerated normally afterwards.
 
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