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Yes, you did. You blatantly stated that i proved with my previous arguments "unpredictability = Skills" , don't try to pretend that wasn't your whole reason for constantly misinterpreting everything i said. (At least you could admit it)
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A Human Monster VS A Rubber Human
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I replied to Elixer's comment not yours. Please calm down.
Garou is more skilled.
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Garou should be more skilled than Luffy tbh
His ability to be able to copy Bomb's entire fighting style when his only experience with it was by getting beat the shit out of by it while coming out of a fight that severely exhausted him, was also poisoned, got beat the shit out of by Genos and also had a fever prior to all of this (and was beaten the shit out of too).
He copies it on a level that is advanced despite the fact that Bomb has trained his martial arts for decades all the way up until now where he is now as a man in his mid 80's at least.
He proceeds to then learn Bang and Bomb's combined technique that they both spent time perfecting for what seems like decades too considering they are brothers and did the same for their individual fighting styles. And he copies this technique that is meant for only the two strongest martial artists to preform on his own with no difficulty without ever seeing Bang and Bomb do it and without even knowing anything about the technique or any steps on how to get there.
Garou prior to his introduction to the story also went around casually stomping other martial arts dojos and it's implied that he hardly or never used his own martial arts form to defeat them and even later on down the line it is revealed Garou has retained several of those martial arts styles and shows the ability to be able to merge those techniques.
Garou even fights against Orochi whose abilities consist of flailing around miniature fire breathing dragons that constantly spray fire while also copying his martial arts style too in a random fashion, although Orochi was holding back, we can see that Garou stayed in the fight for an extremely long time meaning that he had experience against Orochi's fighting style which I would consider to be very random imo.
Garou's reactive evolution is also extremely potent as he went from getting blitzed and oneshot by a fullpower Darkshine to literally bullying him throughout the fight and even deflecting one of his punches with his thumb, he essentially can turn a stomp around with his reactive evolution in a small amount of time
His ability to be able to copy Bomb's entire fighting style when his only experience with it was by getting beat the shit out of by it while coming out of a fight that severely exhausted him, was also poisoned, got beat the shit out of by Genos and also had a fever prior to all of this (and was beaten the shit out of too).
He copies it on a level that is advanced despite the fact that Bomb has trained his martial arts for decades all the way up until now where he is now as a man in his mid 80's at least.
He proceeds to then learn Bang and Bomb's combined technique that they both spent time perfecting for what seems like decades too considering they are brothers and did the same for their individual fighting styles. And he copies this technique that is meant for only the two strongest martial artists to preform on his own with no difficulty without ever seeing Bang and Bomb do it and without even knowing anything about the technique or any steps on how to get there.
Garou prior to his introduction to the story also went around casually stomping other martial arts dojos and it's implied that he hardly or never used his own martial arts form to defeat them and even later on down the line it is revealed Garou has retained several of those martial arts styles and shows the ability to be able to merge those techniques.
Garou even fights against Orochi whose abilities consist of flailing around miniature fire breathing dragons that constantly spray fire while also copying his martial arts style too in a random fashion, although Orochi was holding back, we can see that Garou stayed in the fight for an extremely long time meaning that he had experience against Orochi's fighting style which I would consider to be very random imo.
Garou's reactive evolution is also extremely potent as he went from getting blitzed and oneshot by a fullpower Darkshine to literally bullying him throughout the fight and even deflecting one of his punches with his thumb, he essentially can turn a stomp around with his reactive evolution in a small amount of time
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Huh? I admit that I may have put words in your mouth. But I'm saying that I, myself, don't believe that unpredictability = Skills. The reason for possibly misinterpreting you was probably because I assumed that you had said that you do believe that.
Regardless we're getting off track.
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I am calm. Or where did you jump to the conclusion that I was attacked you personally? I was just wondering where people suddenly got the idea that "unpredictability = skills" when that was just me listing off luffy's strength. Because that would also imply "precognition = skilled".
I never did lel. My first argument covered up almost all Skill Arguments, the second argument was meant to list off Luffy's abilities. Otherwise, I would have covered "Unpredictability" in my first argument.
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It's fine I guess. I felt kinda overwhelmed by people misinterpreting my arguments, while responding to each of them. Well, even if I were to give an explanation why Luffy defeated his foes not just with sheer strength and speed, but skills. It hardly matters, because that would like trying to prove that Anime girls can become real. So I'll admit, Luffy is outskilled here.
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Anyways Garou's biggest problem is Armament and Observation Haki and possibly G3 (though I'm hearing he could redirect it?)
Luffy's Haki should definitely still be superior to everything Garou has in terms of reacting, but I don't know if Garou is that far off (I could be wrong here).
And for Armament, Garou has no answers here, it's a battle of stamina here, which Luffy seems to have more stamina but I highly doubt its that much more.
Luffy's Haki should definitely still be superior to everything Garou has in terms of reacting, but I don't know if Garou is that far off (I could be wrong here).
And for Armament, Garou has no answers here, it's a battle of stamina here, which Luffy seems to have more stamina but I highly doubt its that much more.
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Luffy starts Gear 2nd
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Observation is better since Luffy sees the literal future, however Garou's continuously evolved instinctive reactions and analytical prediction that enables him to predict multiple actions someone can take shouldn't be lagging behind.
Why would Garou have no answers for armament? He has durability negation and can also reflect the punches so if there is something missing then please explain.
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I'm not seeing dura neg on his page unless I'm just blind
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Hold on, i have a question, does Luffy start with G3 or G2?
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I had thought he did, but I just double checked and I don't see it
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Its the last ability in his Half-Monster key abilities.
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Durability Negation. It wil bypass Buso.
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Nvm, guess it's not on his profile so ignore that argument
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It's there.
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What does he dura neg with exactly?
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This doesn't really matter since it's the OP's opinion although garou undoubtably outskilled luffy
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WICF
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Whirlwing Iron Cutting Fist
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Does fishman island luffy have future sight???? Analytic prediction is useless against an unpredictable character
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No.
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He can also strike Darkshine, someone who Garou scales to AP wise who is incapable of harming himself yet is capable of making him bleed internally through an unnamed technique
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Tbh, Garou's skill and endurance are mostly used as a way to keep himself alive in near stomp situations until his Reactive evolution can allow him to surpass the enemy...
But, while in the webcomic he manages to defeat darkshine and then takes advantage of the lack of monsters and heroes to fall asleep for like an hour or two, in the manga after the fight becomes one-sided in his favor, Garou ends up losing control of his transformation and is seemingly incapped to the point Darkshine himself offers him help.
Wouldn't that be a big problem here?
But, while in the webcomic he manages to defeat darkshine and then takes advantage of the lack of monsters and heroes to fall asleep for like an hour or two, in the manga after the fight becomes one-sided in his favor, Garou ends up losing control of his transformation and is seemingly incapped to the point Darkshine himself offers him help.
Wouldn't that be a big problem here?
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Limited durability? How exactly does it work. I mean, it's not the first time that Luffy tanked various Durability negation abilities such as 3x Seimei kikan straight to his stomach and 2x impact dial.
Post-time skip Luffy also tanks Busoshoku Haki punches, so idk.
Post-time skip Luffy also tanks Busoshoku Haki punches, so idk.
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I just requested a change, because someone who has the same ability as Garou has this: Shockwave Generation and Durability Negation (Via Whirlwind Iron Cutting Fist, it sends shockwaves into the body that slice the target apart from the inside)
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No, that's whole cake arc Luffy.
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I mean that Luffy can see the immediate future.
And Garou's analytical prediction allowed him to somewhat fight against Orochi who attacks by randomly flailing around hundreds of dragons that each had martial arts and breathed fire at the same time while Orochi was also shooting out his horns at Garou and breathing out his own fire
I seriously doubt Luffy's fighting style is that unpredictable
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I doubt he could pull it off considering he needs "Immense Focus and desperation"
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