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He actively uses Observation Haki in-character, even Sanji, who has advanced observation was utterly stomped by Doffy.But I doubt it'll help much, seeing his fight with Doffy he rarely used it (unless im remembering incorrectly)
He used Observation Haki, he just couldn't keep up with him. Since Doffy blitzed Luffy in base and G2.But Luffy never/rarely used it against Doffy? (unless like i said im remembering the fight wrong)
Luffy did use it against Doffy, the manga/anime just didn't spoon feed it you that they were both fighting each other with observation since it's a technique that only happens in their head.But Luffy never/rarely used it against Doffy? (unless like i said im remembering the fight wrong)
My bad. But you gotta admit he got that drip.I love Doffy, but derailing a bit.
He became that way because Darkshine pushed him to the point of breaking his limiter. I don't see Luffy being that vastly above him in ap in gear 3rd to be able to replicate that. Even if he could, Garou would still evolve, and Garou would go out of control after the fight finishes.Tbh, Garou's skill and endurance are mostly used as a way to keep himself alive in near stomp situations until his Reactive evolution can allow him to surpass the enemy...
But, while in the webcomic he manages to defeat darkshine and then takes advantage of the lack of monsters and heroes to fall asleep for like an hour or two, in the manga after the fight becomes one-sided in his favor, Garou ends up losing control of his transformation and is seemingly incapped to the point Darkshine himself offers him help.
Wouldn't that be a big problem here?
I agree with everything but Luffy's precog will still help him to dodge Garou's attacks too since he is able to view the immediate future which is useful in a fight involving a quick exchange of attacks. But yeah, I think Garou takes this due to having no problems with Luffy's attacks and eventually evolving until he can beat Luffy.I'm not trying to downplay Luffy, but I see Garou redirecting all of Luffy's attacks from Long, and Close range. I also see Garou winning in a h2h fight. Garou, in character uses WICF in fights, so if Luffy gets hit with it, I see Luffy slowing down temporarily. Luffy at this point won't be able to use Future Sight, and Garou can also evolve mid-fight.
Enough from getting practically one-shot, and not being able to damage someone, getting blitzed, to bullying, outspeeding, and making them bleed with every hitEvolve? How much does that influence the fight. Like how much stronger and faster does he get?
He went from getting oneshot and speed blitz by an opponent to matching their full strength and speed blitzing themEvolve? How much does that influence the fight. Like how much stronger and faster does he get?
"With Immense Focus and Desperation." In my mind, I see Luffy having to do something like this. Garou won't let him do that.I agree with everything but Luffy's precog will still help him to dodge Garou's attacks too since he is able to view the immediate future which is useful in a fight involving a quick exchange of attacks. But yeah, I think Garou takes this due to having no problems with Luffy's attacks and eventually evolving until he can beat Luffy.
Well I think in that image he was trying to look further into the future, compared to the immediate future"With Immense Focus and Desperation." In my mind, I see Luffy having to do something like this. Garou won't let him do that.
G4 Luffy would turn the fight completely around since the moment Luffy transforms he will outspeed and have a massive AP advantage against GarouWell, if that's the case. Then I vote Garou (I would see a tiny bit of chance, if G4 wasn't restricted, but anyways)
Yeah, that's observation haki. Similarly how Satori easily dodged Luffy's Gatling, and Enel caught both Luffy's fists before he could attack with the Gatling (essentially a barrage of 100 fists).Didn't fishman Luffy ez dodge the water bullets, I thought that was a showing of his observation haki?
Yeah then for the beginning of the fight, Luffy and Garou will be able to handily dodge each others attacks thenYeah, that's observation haki. Similarly how Satori easily dodged Luffy's Gatling, and Enel caught both Luffy's fists before he could attack with the Gatling (essentially a barrage of 100 fists).
Do you think Fishman-Island Luffy would be able to pull off Future Sight under these conditions?Well I think in that image he was trying to look further into the future, compared to the immediate future
Yes.Do you think Fishman-Island Luffy would be able to pull off Future Sight under these conditions?
^Dodging Danmaku or Danmaku alike abilities is something that every Rudimentary observation haki user is capable of.
Based on the current arguments, do you still vote Luffy since your arguments you made were countered later on in the thread?
Gear 3rd has higher AP, though Garou can just redirect it, then hit Luffy with the same power.I don't see garou passive evolution working against someone relative to him in power,where is speed/ap amp coming from???
True, ig it's just a stamina matchI don't see garou passive evolution working against someone relative to him in power,where is speed/ap amp coming from???
Except garou is at the point of death/completely overpowered he has never been showed to evolve in a match against someone with higher ap than himGear 3rd has higher AP, though Garou can just redirect it, then hit Luffy with the same power.
LMAO, Garou literally activated reactive evolution against a character who oneshot him so hard he thought he was going to get killed and subsequently smashed his ribs a part, if it wasn't for regeneration or immortality type 2, Garou would have died and yet he still could use his reactive evolution to bully said character that did that to himExcept garou is at the point of death/completely overpowered he has never been showed to evolve in a match against someone with higher ap than him
Well, a few corrections. Luffy's blunt force trauma is 6-C, also wouldn't Luffy's danger senses and precognition altering him to Garou's attack reflection ability?Gear 3rd has higher AP, though Garou can just redirect it, then hit Luffy with the same power.
Are you trolling?Except garou is at the point of death/completely overpowered he has never been showed to evolve in a match against someone with higher ap than him
I mean, the redirection point still stands. I don't see how Luffy can counter not getting redirected other than just not throwing the punch.Well, a few corrections. Luffy's blunt force trauma is 6-C, also wouldn't Luffy's danger senses and precognition altering him to Garou's attack reflection ability?
But that wouldn't hurt him.I mean, the redirection point still stands. I don't see how Luffy can counter not getting redirected other than just not throwing the punch.
Redirection doesn't mean reflecting.But that wouldn't hurt him.