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A certain Magical Index vs One piece

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Aurasuke

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What would happen if a 300km radius portal opened between the oceans of these two worlds?

Conditions:

Magic god restricted (includes Othinius and Ollerus), aleister restricted, accelerator restricted, Kakine restricted, Rensa restricted, Kreutene restricted (due to immortality), Ladylee restricted (due to immortality), thor restricted, Fiamma restricted, gabriel restricted

UPDATE

Apparently index is universal (I haven't readall of NT 14 so maybe her feat is there. ) so she's also restricted. Sorry I kind of forgot about Aiwass lol, naturally she's restricted. She doesn't really have too many apperances lol.

Gets 1 billion navy pirates, and 100 million pirates, all main characters allowed

Battle takes place in Academy City
 
You're not saying they'd actually use a graviton bomb right? Lol Dianoid floating. I know that much but they haven't really used it for combat.
 
Aurasuke said:
You're not saying they'd actually use a graviton bomb right? Lol Dianoid floating. I know that much but they haven't really used it for combat.
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But they can. I don't think they would, because that would kill EVERYONE fighting, but if they're losing, they could force a draw with it.
 
wait, that reality warping guy who can't actual reality warp and had the name of fake magic god? that guy? ^

I lied about the fake magic god thing lol.
 
Aurelous has reality warping, but its not like he can just straightforward rewrite the universe or at least he didn't shown it. So legitimate reality warping but not necessarily able make a whole continent die or anything like that. So in the end he would just be blitzted.

I also argue that graviton bomb is legitimate course of action. After all the fight doesn't happen in to aru world, so blowing up the planet of one piece is legitimate. If they worry about their planet being destroyed because of the gravity coming through the portal they should just let touma close it after dropping the bomb...

That aside Ventos verse killer aka Divine punishment takes out pretty much the whole one piece verse.


One could also note that to aru verse with submarines and stuff can just sink any ship comming through the portal so one piece has a bit of a problem when it comes to an offense.

Lastly I just want to say that I don't like the battle. A verse battle with basically every God, top and Upper end High tier restricted for one verse always feels like spite to be honest.
 
Yeah, I have to agree with DontTalk. While I understand in some battles equalizing speeds since that can vary a lot from verse to verse and can make for a much more interesting battle than 'lol, blitzed'; taking away all God, Top and several High tiers from just one of the sides feels like a spite match, especially since there weren't any concessions to Toaru to compensate for that like speed equalization or even just Logia intangibility retriction.

However, this still goes to Toaru. They park the Glastonbury fortress and other mobile fortresses right in front of their side of the portal, with the Knights of England acting as the center of the allied forces supported by Curtana's blessing and the bombardment of the fortresses. On the back, Elizard keep knighting magicians, allowing them to be blessed by Curtana. On to Toaru characters and how they ruin the day of any One Piece group that tries to enter through the portal:

-Carissa (conventional durability means nothing), Knight Leader (can make One Piece's weapons totally useless for 10 minutes, repeat indefinitely), Kanzaki Kaori, Acqua of the Back, Maiden of Versailles, Elizard, Silvia, Brunhild Eiktobel + from 6 to 15 more Saints as fighters to match up any of One Piece's stronger fighters that crosses the portal. Plus Brunhild can just go around mind attacking all of One Piece's fighters with her Final Rune sketch. Or carve it in a giant wall facing the portal, so that One Piece's invasion forces have to look at it as they enter.

-Terra of the Left, the guy who manipulates the concept of AP and Durability, now lava < humans, and flour > lava. Aureolus Izzard, one word and any One Piece character drops dead or explodes. Etzali, conventional durability means nothing + characters wielding weapons kill themselves. Matthai Reese, a.k.a "Soulrip Pope". Krans R. Tsarskiy, a.k.a "7 strikes and you're out". Marian Slingeneyer, another durability bypasser, creator of overpowered magic weapons, summoner of monsters and basically able to copy Aureolus and kill most One Piece characters through fear using Dainsleif. All magicians that would wreck any of One Piece's fighters by supporting one of the Saint or Saint-level fighters, even more if they are knighted and receive Curtana's blessing.

Oh god, I just realized how operpowered a knighted Aureolus Izzard would be.

-Some espers like Misaki, who can brainwash any One Piece character that's been restrained/defeated by the Toaru fighters and force them to join Toaru's side; teleporters, who ignore durability; Girl in Dress or Seike will also be useful if supported adequately.

-Kihara Noukan is still there, cool. Toaru also still has Kihara Byouri and the Eq. Dark Matter suits.

-Artificial angels Kazakiri and AIM Burst are also there and pretty much unkillable by One Piece. Apparently Aiwass is still there, I'm going to assume that's an oversight given the general restriction of Toaru's God and Top tiers and not count it.

-Kakeru can BFR any Logia and bypass their intangibility.

-Toaru has healing magic and super science medical tech, so they'll be able to keep their charachters alive and send them back into the fray much more easily. Also, superior communication system with mass communication spells and modern technology, which is always an edge in large-scale battles.

But more importantly, Vento of the Front = all One Piece characters fall unconscious the instant they feel any hostility towards her, nullifying the general superior speeds of One Piece characters and making them easy pickings for the rest of Toaru fighters.

Final Conclusion: DontTalk is right, even with all the restrictions Toaru still wins against One Piece with low-to-mid difficulty. Toaru's magicians with a small support from Science's powered suits, some espers and air force can easily hold the line while Academy City prepares a graviton bomb. Once that's done, just send a HsB-07 with the bomb to the other side and drop the bomb, destroying the entire one piece verse. Or make Index craft Gungnir again and have some poor soldier jump into the portal and throw it in the One Piece world. Have Touma on hand to close the portal.
 
^man, how can you write so much xd ,although i do like reading your posts, always well written

on a side note, One Piece has been taking a beating from To Aru Chars for what seems like awhile now, poor One Piece..

on a more trollzy way for To Aru to win, Have Musujime Teleport people into the Windowless building and Have Izzard kill them all from there..

or heck, combine this with DontTalks suggestion and fire the anti graviton bomb and hide in the windowless building also.

Another thing you could do is have Vento in the windowless building, then run a broadcast on the televisions of the city showing her taunting and verbally abusing One Piece Chars and have them get KO'ed By Divine Punishment
 
Just to make sure, Touma's reality has a lot of no-nonsense fighters. I mean very no-nonsense to the point where they would rather bypass the durability and intangibility and whatever otherwise annoying and virtually impossible obstacles of the Logia and non-Logia users efficiently, rather than irrationally and vainly waste a lot of effort spared for the actually challenging ones, if they are any. And Vento's ability make it so they literally cannot be bloodthirsty so easily without Divine Punishment having an effect on them.
 
^^Thanks. I like One Piece, but I'm surprised at all the matchs with Toaru it's getting lately. In 1v1 battles they have better chances/results as long as they stay clear of the higher tiers of the Toarverse, but a full-on verse vs verse fight? There's too much difference in strength and amount of hax, even without Toaru's strongest characters.
 
Their ability/abilities literally hack through their virtually invincible durability provided by Logia and Non-Logia abilities (Busoshoku Haki, certain Paramecia defenses), and being "bloodlusted" means nothing if they can use the bloodthirsty nature against the aforementioned target(s), with the target not sufficiently weaponizing this for broader practical reasons (getting angry and bloodthristy actually enhances the target as in they physically hit harder, move faster, more resistant, and harder to defeat, rather than merely make them fight more efficiently or attempt to fight better), and not everything and everyone are so casually avoidable. In this case, "overpowered" is referred in a formal, verbal sense: to subdue or excel in power. The abilities the Saints and the others they have are more than just refined brute force, they outright make durability and even stamina ineffective.
 
Wow, thanks for all the replies. I'm glad no one simply stated something like fire all the thermal nuclear missiles from the USA because that wouldn't be very in character for the index verse even while facing an invasion of such a scale. I mean they didn't even use them against Othinius. I knew that index verse was superior in both technology and hax, which is why I gave One Piece such larger numbers to begin with. Anything else would not have been interesting and resulted in a far too predictable outcome. Goes without saying that if we had top tiers like Accelerator, or Kakine they alone could probably win the battle which would be more unfair for One Piece. Of course if we included the magic gods, it wouldn't even be a fight lol.
 
You mean Index's (as in, the actual female individual) universe/reality? Also, this is more than just "unfair". Also, like I said before, the fighters from Touma's reality have powerful abilities that not only makes their opponent's durability useless, but make even the bloodlust of their enemies an actual hinderance/bad thing, rather than making them fight better.
 
^Wow, I totally forgot to restrict her. Maybe because I haven't finished NT 14, I don't know about her universal power lol. She didn't really seem too powerful before, so I thought I'd let her slide. True she shot down tree diagram, but other than that there weren't to many impressive feats from index. Well she does have the knowledge to turn someone into a magic god, but I just assumed they wouldn't use it for this fight.
 
@Aura index is Universal based on the fact she can recreate Gungnir, and Gungnir destroys the universe when thrown
 
^she only provides the knowledge but she needs someone to create and use it, this is why index and levinia showed up instead of her alone :)
 
Aiwass is not a she, it doesn't have a gender, and Index's universal status is because she can recreate Othinus' Gungnir's aspect as a thrown spear, which destroys the universe when thrown. It's from NT10's boss rush, not NT14. My mention of Index's Gungnir was an example of how they heavily outclass One Piece in terms of hax even with God, Top, and almost all High Tiers restricted.

Even if you also take away Index (I had already assumed you missed Aiwass) this doesn't change; Toaruverse still wins this with low-to-mid difficulty. HsB-07 with graviton bomb solos One Piece.
 
In layman and formal terms, fighters from Luffy's reality are no match against the fighters from Index's reality.
 
Lol, seeing as not one person argued for One Piece having an advantage, I don't think I have much of a reason to disagree. Though you do have characters like Luffy with a massive speed advantage over the index characters, not sure of that alone is enough to turn the tide of war against technology like Academy Cities.
 
^ Speed means nothing when any One Piece character that tries to fight the Toaruverse characters is going to fall unconscious due to Divine Punishment, just like superior Durability alone is not an issue for the Toaruverse given how many durability bypassers they have, even Low Tiers.

This is simply a verse mismatch due to difference in hax levels.
 
And that is one of the few times where even being "bloodlusted"/bloodthirsty is pointless and downright useless. Also, if formally speaking, "hax" should be replaced with "virtually unstoppable powers" which the pirates and others from Luffy's world cannot just use Haki and cannot just endure to easily gain an advantage over the people who has them. You want proof? You have people who make even the strongest Haki users ineffective, people who can and will make induced bloodlust ineffective. None of the sword techniques are any good when one of them can nullify them for a short while. The Straw Hats' endurance will not help them in this particular battle, etc. Can you see the overwhelming advantage Touma and the others clearly have over the people from another reality of the vast seas?
 
lol, funny thing is Touma may be at a pretty huge disadvantage here in terms of speed. But his plot armor is so thick, I bet he'll even end up beating Luffy somehow with whatever is behind imagine breaker lol.
 
OK. Just to check, Touma is going to indeed have a hard time. Since unlike his reality, Luffy and the others from their own reality don't use actual magic or any noticeable esper ability he can negate.
 
Dekoshu said:
OK. Just to check, Touma is going to indeed have a hard time. Since unlike his reality, Luffy and the others from their own reality don't use actual magic or any noticeable esper ability he can negate.
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Imagine breaker just really works on anything supernatural. So Devil fruits and probably also Haki will be negated (or normalized to be specific). Still without usual plot armour pretty much any named one piece character can beat him down barehanded.
 
^maybe logia lol, but Luffy is not really a Logia user. Maybe armament Haki as well but that won't really help him against regular attacks lol.

But seriously though, Touma's plot armor is so thick he beat accelerator 3 times. he beat a guy that can solo one piece, he even beat a magic god with super plot convienience.
 
^^ but with plot armor he defeats everyone because at just the right time a stray missile or bullet is fired at them while they were unaware, of the ground beneath them literally collaspes, or he is saved by another index character.

Then he proceeds to seduce every female character that he walks across who so much as looks in his direction.
 
^ Once again, Touma's plot armor is not thicker than any other random battle LN/manga/anime/video game/action movie MC. He won't die in an accident off-screen, of sickness or be killed by a random enemy/bullet, as the series would end. It's literally no different from Naruto, Ichigo, Luffy, Harry Potter, Harry Dresden, etc..., none of them are going to die outside of an important plot moment from which they can be resurrected to continue the series or at the end of the series itself if the story goes "the hero give his own life at the end to save the world" route.

Seriously, I know people like to repeat the meme that Touma's plot armor is super thick and canon based on that random comment Othinus made as part of her torture, but if you are an anime/manga fan you should know it isn't anything out of the ordinary.

Touma's 2 victories over Accel were explained in the novel, Accel took a dive the third time they fought. And he never beat Othinus.

And Luffy wrecks Touma super easily.
 
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