Pikaman
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Oh sorry
then just
“At least 2-B, likely Low 1-C, possibly 2-A,”
or is that not any good either because it goes down from Low 1-C to 2-A
I’m not well versed in formatting tbh
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A Certain Llama Wants In On The Low 1-C club; Pokemon Low 1-C Upgrade for True Form Arceus
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then just
“At least 2-B, likely Low 1-C, possibly 2-A,”
or is that not any good either because it goes down from Low 1-C to 2-A
I’m not well versed in formatting tbh
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Personally I think it’s solid, as his true form exist in a realm (or is that realm, idk) above the already 2-A concepts of Dialga and Palkia. I’ve been here a long time and that’s always been a deciding factor for that tier. Transcending things that already transcend the mortal realm.
Pikaman
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Yeah there are multiple Low 1-C feats and supporting feats, why would we say there’s potential for Arceus not to be Low 1-C
and again, taking discontent of the Wiki’s standards for Low 1-C out on this CRT/Arceus isn’t a proper argument or reason to limit it to a likely/possibly (though I’m not sure if anybody has tried to argue likely/possibly for this particular reason, just better to nip it in the bud now)
and again, taking discontent of the Wiki’s standards for Low 1-C out on this CRT/Arceus isn’t a proper argument or reason to limit it to a likely/possibly (though I’m not sure if anybody has tried to argue likely/possibly for this particular reason, just better to nip it in the bud now)
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...it's not like is "X tier, likely Lower Tier" is something that can be done here.
It's how I've written above, nothing else, no offense, given the higher the tier, the higher the requirements.
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Ah k thanks
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About time it’s come, I agree with this.
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I'm leaning towards Possibly Low 1-C being fine.
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Anyway, the justification for either end (i.e just "Low Complex Multiverse level" or "At least Multiverse level, likely Multiverse level+, possibly Low Complex Multiverse level) should be this:
(Is the origin of the creation of everything in Pokémon, including the realms of The Creation Trio, including Giratina's which lacks both time and directions, and Palkia's which has domain over both the spatial dimensions and the directions, with the Creation Trio members also being their own realms themselves. Arceus is the "God who transcends everything" whose realm is beyond both time and space and that treats the Pokémon reality, which is made of countless to likely infinite universes, as a mere aspect of its true being, as also showcased from its consciousness extending across both space and time and Hoopa being able to forcefully summon the Creation Trio out of their realms with the "infinite power" of its rings, but being unable to do the same with Arceus', as it's the only one who could seal said power)
You think is good?
(Is the origin of the creation of everything in Pokémon, including the realms of The Creation Trio, including Giratina's which lacks both time and directions, and Palkia's which has domain over both the spatial dimensions and the directions, with the Creation Trio members also being their own realms themselves. Arceus is the "God who transcends everything" whose realm is beyond both time and space and that treats the Pokémon reality, which is made of countless to likely infinite universes, as a mere aspect of its true being, as also showcased from its consciousness extending across both space and time and Hoopa being able to forcefully summon the Creation Trio out of their realms with the "infinite power" of its rings, but being unable to do the same with Arceus', as it's the only one who could seal said power)
You think is good?
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I share the same thought as Yuri, while I agree with possibly Low 1-C rating it's still worth to remind that you still need to prove uncountable infinite superiority for low 1-C, any feat about transcending space-time is Low 1-C because the wiki treats it being equivalent to higher infinities for some weird reasons.
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Personally, and this is just me, but I don’t like “possibly”. I think we should try to be as objective as possible, not trying to compromise so both sides are satiated. Either Low 1-C or reject.
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Nah, is vague enough to buy a possibly either tbf.
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Again, Archie Sonic and the chaos force is one of the perfect examples of not needing to prove infinite superiority to get Low 1-C.
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Well, as long as it is part of the standard we have to consider this option.
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Archie Sonic is low 1-C because transcending space-time is equivalent to infinite superiority according to standard, not because you don't need to prove it
Tbh this whole thing makes ppl misunderstand the whole point why tier 1 is qualitatively superior to tier 2
fact
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Tho, from what I gathered:
Agree on a full Low 1-C: The_real_cal_howard, Psychomaster35. You can add both me and Arceus0x if you think both me and him are trustworth enough here.
Agree with a "possibly Low 1-C": QuasiYuri, DarkDragonMedeus and Executor_N0 (if you buy this)
Disagree: Confluctor
Agree on a full Low 1-C: The_real_cal_howard, Psychomaster35. You can add both me and Arceus0x if you think both me and him are trustworth enough here.
Agree with a "possibly Low 1-C": QuasiYuri, DarkDragonMedeus and Executor_N0 (if you buy this)
Disagree: Confluctor
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As Arceus doesn't lmfao.
Pikaman
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It's called a joke. Hence why I used the strike-through. Chill.
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Tbh, if Archie verse got a full because of the "force beyond space and time which encompasses all of it" thing, Arceus, which has even better statements imo, should full pass according to standards, otherwise is a pretty big double standard.
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Oh whoops sorry
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All of them work from me.
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Please elaborate/explain further.
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first one doesn't work for me at all. I recommend at least taking the image in question and adding it to our wiki's image database so it can be used at any time
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Also off topic but my "Let me rate your pfp" thread got around 100 replies in approximately 1 hour is currently even higher, so...not much for activity tbh
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Tldr he disagrees with the current Low 1-C standards, but he buys a possibly given how those are on wiki currently.
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I just meant that my opinion on the Low 1-C standard and my input were unrelated actually.
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Kek. Whatever.
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Here’s the current vote count btw.
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Pikaman
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That has to be enough to say this can be applied right? the crux of the argument used in staff disagreement was debunked so at this point I think this is good, though I’m not sure how it works with CRTs this big
discussion can probably slowly begin turning towards whether to be outright or possibly at this stage at the very least though.
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