8-B+/Low 8-A Tournament Round 2, Match 3: Helmed Horror VS Sasuke Uchiha

[Psychomaster35]

Time to move on between the ninja and the knight-thing!

In the blue corner, we have the Helmed Horror from Dungeons and Dragons (nominated by Peppersalt43), and on the red corner, we have Sasuke Uchiha from Naruto (nominated by TauanVector).

Battle Horror and Sasuke Retrieval Sasuke are used, rest of the match rules in the tournament OP.

Who wins?

...:

Shadow but as an edgy ninja:

Inconclusive:

 

[Peppersalt43]

You know what, I'll start this one

How does Sasuke's Sharingan interact with a magic construct?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Which Sasuke is this? Chūnin Exams Sasuke?

 

[Psychomaster35]

Which Sasuke is this? Chūnin Exams Sasuke?

Look at the OP

 

[Popted2]

Which Sasuke is this? Chūnin Exams Sasuke?

Sasuke retrieval

 

[TauanVictor]

You know what, I'll start this one

How does Sasuke's Sharingan interact with a magic construct?

In the same way it allows you to interact with Bijū, monsters made entirely of energy.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

What are the opening moves-slash-hax for Sasuke and Helmed Horror? AP difference? I'm not sure what to start with, so anything would be, tbh

 

[Peppersalt43]

In the same way it allows you to interact with Bijū, monsters made entirely of energy.

Don't they appear further into the seasons? This is early Sasuke

 

[TauanVictor]

Don't they appear further into the seasons? This is early Sasuke

I mean, Obito was born after Sasuke and very young and inexperienced with the Sharingan could interact with a Bijū.

 

[Peppersalt43]

born before Sasuke

You mean after? Also I just realized

In the same way it allows you to interact with Bijū, monsters made entirely of energy.

Helmed Horror resists energy manip. Also how does that constitute as magic?

 

[Peppersalt43]

Um, is anyone gonna respond?

 

[XXKINGXX69]

sasuke via chidori and fire release

 

[Peppersalt43]

sasuke via chidori and fire release

But Helmed Horror resists fire and electricity

 

[XXKINGXX69]

But Helmed Horror resists fire and electricity

To an unknown extent

 

[Peppersalt43]

To an unknown extent

If Sasuke has Natsu levels of fire manip then he wouldn't be allowed in this tourney to begin with. Please tell me he can't burn the fabric of reality itself

 

[XXKINGXX69]

If Sasuke has Natsu levels of fire manip then he wouldn't be allowed in this tourney to begin with. Please tell me he can't burn the fabric of reality itself

he can vaporise the ground, so its a lot hotter than lava

 

[Peppersalt43]

he can vaporise the ground, so its a lot hotter than lava

Helmed Horror can tank attacks that can disintegrate stone so disintegrating dirt doesn't seem very impressive

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Helmed Horror can tank attacks that can disintegrate stone so disintegrating dirt doesn't seem very impressive

can you show me how he tanks it?

 

[Peppersalt43]

can you show me how he tanks it?

It's on its profile at the justification for Multi-City Block level. Check the Attack Potency part

 

[XXKINGXX69]

It's on its profile at the justification for Multi-City Block level. Check the Attack Potency part

Doesnt even say he can survive heat enough to disintegrate stone, just that his energy output is similar to them

 

[Peppersalt43]

Doesnt even say he can survive heat enough to disintegrate stone, just that his energy output is similar to them

But it's comparable to them and that means its resistances are also comparable to the level of creatures capable of using that energy, possibly even to attack it and it has no specific weakness to energy effects of that level

 

[XXKINGXX69]

But it's comparable to them and that means its resistances are also comparable to the level of creatures capable of using that energy, possibly even to attack it and it has no specific weakness to energy effects of that level

Comparable to someone in AP doesnt mean you have similar resistances

 

[Peppersalt43]

Comparable to someone in AP doesnt mean you have similar resistances

There's also this part

it has no specific weakness to energy effects of that level

That are mentioned in the weakness section

 

[XXKINGXX69]

There's also this part

That are mentioned in the weakness section

And? No weakness =/= resistance

 

[Peppersalt43]

And? No weakness =/= resistance

I've asked @Mr._Bambu on this matter. Once he answers, we'll probably get a better explanation

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Ok

 

[Peppersalt43]

Ok

Alright the answer is here. Basically it might be hotter but for now it can reach 5000-5500 C which is basically 4 times hotter than lava

 

[Epiccheev]

Can D&D magic be equalized to chakra?

 

[Peppersalt43]

Can D&D magic be equalized to chakra?

Probably not. I mean, the Chakra Manipulation text links to Chi Manipulation which is its own thing compared to magic

 

[Shadyboi0]

Obito was born after Sasuke

Obito was born before Sasuke

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Alright the answer is here. Basically it might be hotter but for now it can reach 5000-5500 C which is basically 4 times hotter than lava

Doesnt even mean helmed horror can resist it on that same level, so I'll stick with Sasuke

 

[Peppersalt43]

Doesnt even mean helmed horror can resist it on that same level, so I'll stick with Sasuke

What?! How?! He just explained that the fire resistance feats for those characters can reach that level! 5500 C is the heat of the sun!

 

[XXKINGXX69]

What?! How?! He just explained that the fire resistance feats for those characters can reach that level! 5500 C is the heat of the sun!

He didnt say fire resistance of Helmed Horror though and no scans

 

[Peppersalt43]

He didnt say fire resistance of Helmed Horror though and no scans

Alright check the conversation again. Helmed Horror's resistance is on par with said fire elementals

 

[XXKINGXX69]

It takes less damage from them, to an unquantifiable extent

 

[Peppersalt43]

It takes less damage from them, to an unquantifiable extent

It literally says "that it takes minimized/no damage from fire sources, when said fire sources include (insert aforementioned sun surface-dwelling fire elementals here)". This is the equivalent of a no-sell from comparable heats since the resistance is high enough to count as immunity

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Ok then, I re read the scan

So what are the win cons for helmed horror?

 

[Peppersalt43]

Ok then, I re read the scan

So what are the win cons for helmed horror?

Pain Manip means one-hit would severely wound Sasuke

Assuming magic isn't equalized to chakra which I have dealt with here

Probably not. I mean, the Chakra Manipulation text links to Chi Manipulation which is its own thing compared to magic

Sasuke won't be able to just Sharingan GG

Helmed Horror also has various spells to its disposal which empower its weapons or allow deafening blasts of noise. It also has a speed amp and seeing as to how it has superior reactions, that speed advantage is multiplied

 

[SlendVeny]

Helmed Horror FRA, and due to flight.

 

[Epiccheev]

How would helmed horror compare to Sausage in skill?