[15th Round of 8-B Tournament] - The Hunter vs Celistia Ralgris (7-5-0)

[ZackMoon1234]

The 15th Round of the 8-B Bracket Hub

The Tree of the 8-B Bracket Hub


Speed Equalized

77 meters apart

Location - The Great Pyramid of Giza

8-B Keys used


The Hunter - 7 (JoshSSJGod, 00potato, DeathNoodles, XSOULOFCINDERX, Mr. Bambu, Zamasu Chan, Moritzva)

Celistia Ralgris - 5 (Ionliosite, Overlord775, Zaratthustra, Necromercer, Schnee One)

Inconclusive - 0 ()


The Hunter

• 20.2 Tons

Celistia Ralgris

• With no calcs (Safe to assume they're just baseline) - 11 Tons

 

[Ionliosite]

I want to cry. Put them at a higher distance, 7 meters is extremely close.

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Okay, I'll put it at 77

 

[Ionliosite]

Ok, so, what did Hunter lead with?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Ghillie Mantle + Sleephax + Experience killing enemies stronger than him and strong enough to One-Shot the monster the 20.2 feat comes from.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Oh yeah, and her Paralysis is useless since The Hunter has equipment that negates Paralysis.

 

[Ionliosite]

Ghillie Mantle is the Camouflague, right? Celistia can just nuke if she sees her opponent disappears.

How does the Hunter do the sleep hax?

 

[JoshSSJGod]

So this is basically just like all of Hunter's previous matches. Alrighty then, that's fun to know.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

The Hunter is pretty straight forward considering this tactic works on every monster in Monster Hunter.

 

[Ionliosite]

Yeah, but, how does the Hunter do the sleep hax?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

He applies it via either Tranqs or smacking you with a Sleep Weapon.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

And it works on Metallic enemies from what I remember.

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Bump

No votes for now I think

 

[Overlord775]

And it works on Metallic enemies from what I remember.

Metallic Enemies =/= Robots

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Bump

 

[Ionliosite]

"Tranqs" are tranquilizers, right? If they are, then they probably won't get past the forcefield; and which is the "sleep weapon"?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

There's a lot of Weapons with the sleep effect on them.

 

[Overlord775]

which again, i would like proof that would work on a robot that doesn't have a mind or biology to affect

 

[Ionliosite]

i would like proof that would work on a robot that doesn't have a mind or biology to affect

I actually wonder why is this necesary to this match.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

It's really not. That's just what everyone says he starts with since it's the easiest thing for him to do on everything he fought. Anyway, The Hunter legit outclasses her in everything. The only caveat being he himself can't teleport.

 

[Ionliosite]

Actually, would the sleep hax given she has resistance to mind hax?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Everytime someone asked that, the response was Sleephax doesn't get negged by Mindhax Resistance.

 

[Ionliosite]

Why wouldn't it? Sleep hax is directly linked to the mind, mindhax resistance should cover it.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Does Mindhax Resistance work against Tranquilizers? Because the Sleep Weapons could range from any of the weapon types in Monster Hunter, including a giant 6 foot long, 3 foot wide, 6 inch thick Greatsword.

 

[JoshSSJGod]

It can. It can affect Monsters who have high resistance to the Dragon Element which directly attacks the mind.

 

[Ionliosite]

It can. It can affect Monsters who have high resistance to the Dragon Element which directly attacks the mind.

To what scale? Because I want to compare it to Celis' resistance.

 

[JoshSSJGod]

Does at least low 6-B answer your question?

 

[Ionliosite]

Does at least low 6-B answer your question?

No, because mindhax is measure on the amount of people, not tiers.

 

[JoshSSJGod]

In that case then I'm sure. It can work on a group, yes but I don't know the limit.

 

[Ionliosite]

Ok, Iblis' Mental Pollution, which is as far as Celistia resits on this key, worked on the armies of the 7 countries of the World Allience at once when they invaded Avalon.

 

[JoshSSJGod]

Does Mindhax Resistance work against Tranquilizers? Because the Sleep Weapons could range from any of the weapon types in Monster Hunter, including a giant 6 foot long, 3 foot wide, 6 inch thick Greatsword.

Okay but since we kinda skimmed over this, I'll bring it up again. Also Hunter's sleep via weapons is considered a Status Effect.

 

[Ionliosite]

Celistia has resistance to Status Effect Inducement (it's on her page) and resists both biological Mindhax and supernatural mindhax. Also, I don't really see how that whole feet argument has anything to do with the debate here.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

The Sleephax aren't even the thing that gives the Hunter the win. He literally outclasses all of her stats and resists her Hax aside from Teleportation.

 

[Overlord775]

Just repeating that he outclasses in everything isn't an argument, get something better for your case

From what i see here, Celistia greatly outdoes the Hunter in ranged combact and could just spam from range, abuse the fact that the hunter can't fly and even just teleport away from attacks.

there's also the fact that since Celistia is inside a giant mech armor, a lot of Hunter's offensive weapons are negated.

I see Celistia holding the advantage here

 

[Ionliosite]

there's also the fact that since Celistia is inside a giant mech armor

Celistia is inside a giant mech armor?!

 

[Overlord775]

 

[Ionliosite]

That isn't giant, it's like 3 metres tall.

 

[Overlord775]

... just realized it isn't a mecha

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

She still can't see through the Ghillie Mantle, which will allow the Hunter to sneak up on a grab a hold of her so that Range and Teleportation aren't gonna be that useful. Unless she can teleport by herself while being touched.

 

[JoshSSJGod]

Problem is, The Hunter has dealt with all that before.

• Hunter has dealt with greatly intelligent Monsters that could fly and use ranged attacks basically every fight. They also have the same range of hundreds of Meters and can actually fly with certain weapons.

• Hunter has probability manipulation, sound, light, minor physics, damage reduction, stats amps, a much higher AP and paralysis to keep her still.