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7-A Team Bracket Match 1 (Elisa Celjska & Mami Tomoe vs Machamp & Metagross)

Again how?

Does he shot psychic beam? Or does he shot psychic lightning? Or his psychic power is just a form of of telekinesis, which if you read my post above, has already been covered at how she will deal with that.
 
assuming they start on the ground, meta could just slam her into the ground before she can react. Also the lifting strength doesn't matter much as the 7-A+ force that's crushing her.
 
Harming by doing what?

With his telekinesis only rated as Class 100, now I'm a hundreds percent sure he couldn't even budge them at all. With Mami trapping them with ribbons that nulls their powers and spammed range attacks with support from Elisa.

I would say they should takes this easily.
 
Depends on the kind of said range attacks themselves. Mami can either:

>Throws them back with attack reflection.

>Depends herself and Elisa with Shield.

>Or just dodge.

>Or just prevents them from using it in the first place with ribbon trap.
 
Pretty sure the girls get beaten when their opponents are just so much more skilled than them. Machamp outskills while Metagross outsmarts. Metagross has the means to avoid traps. Machamp has the means to chuck anything out of his way with Class G lifting strength.
 
Ah right, Machamp exists here, just as Elisa too.

@Cal Still doubt Machamp can break free the ribbon when Walpurgis, who still can uses her power despite having Mami ribbon wrapped around her, couldn't break it. Class G only prevents Mami from immobilizing him should she only wrapped his upper body.

Mami can just wrapped him like a mummy with his arms and legs tied tightly instead.
 
Dusty Raider said:
She's only class k via telekinesis
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Yes, so?

I'm talking about her cannot freaking the ribbon despite still can uses her Magic while being wrapped with the ribbon.

Machamp can still move if Mami only wrapped his upper body, even though the ribbons were anchored to the ground. But he still wouldn't be able to break the ribbon.
 
"I'm saying that Metagross wouldn't look like a witch or creature she dealt with before meaning she may assume its abilities are different from what she usually deals with."

I'm sorry Metagross and Machamp are pretty irregularly shaped and inhuman looking. That qualifies them for witch or familiar if she's looking at them.
 
XDragnoir said:
Btw, if the ribbons are allowed, will the H7A equips Tsuna and Gokudera have be allowed?
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They are only allowed, because:

  1. They are only defensively above 7-A
  2. The characters are less than 7-A in dura without them (meaning there is a significant trade off)
  3. They aren't used in a fashion that makes them stonewalls (i.e. barriers are used sparingly, not constantly kept up during battle)
I don't think the same applies to Tsuna & Co.
 
I guess I'll admit defeat here. Unless someone who knows more about pokemon can make a argument. Though to be fair, the ribbons are the real problem here
 
I'll comment more about this in their fight, as for this fight... idk, both sides are making sense to me, what are the wincons of the Madoka side?
 
Mantello Di Primo is defensive and High 7-A. Even then, I'm pretty sure it's being argued that they can restrain via ribbons, which isn't purely defensive.

But, fair enough on the point of being a glasscanon without them.
 
Ribbon trapping I guess. Though I don't see how that protects them from amps and the raw power of Machamp and Metagross. Especially when Metagross can double its speed and Machamp can half theirs.
 
My personal opinion is that Metagross just telekinetically squishes them, tbh. AP is a factor in that stuff. (And only Mami has a real defense)

Also, whenever Mami would anchor herself that would rob her of movement capabilities, at which point Machamp can easily stone edge her head off.
 
Anyone who wants to vote should cast a clear vote soon. It's been almost 24h.
 
It's a few hours past voting time.

That Beast Zero Gudako votes for PMMM is clear, I think. XDragnoir and 00potato voted for pkmn.

Even speculating on some of the less clear positions I think pkmn currently has the advantage. So they move on for the tourney. (Fell free to continue debating the match, though.)

Next match soon.
 
Pokémon FRA

I want my question answered though because many of Mami's matches involve ribbon trapping higher lifting strength
 
Upscales 10x because multipliers or what? 50 megatons is not even City+ and 500 megatons is basically the middle of Mountain level.
 
Schnee One said:
Pokémon FRA
I want my question answered though because many of Mami's matches involve ribbon trapping higher lifting strength
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I would guess it'd still have to do with the magical properties of the ribbons where lifting strength probably won't apply unless if you have something like your own magic abilities or resistance to it.
 
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