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Oh, dangDisqualified
I feel like Haruka is still going to win tho because she can stop accelerator from exploiting those higher-dimensional hax to begin with
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Oh, dangDisqualified
Even if what I’m assuming about accel is wrong is it actually possible for a non tier 1 to nullify or really do anything to a tier 1? I’ve sort of been of the state of mind that lower than tier 1’s simply can’t touch anything tier 1 so this is interestingOh, dang
I feel like Haruka is still going to win tho because she can stop accelerator from exploiting those higher-dimensional hax to begin with
If the non-tier 1 has higher-dimensional hax then I think they could, but who wins depends on a case-by-case basis probably.Even if what I’m assuming about accel is wrong is it actually possible for a non tier 1 to nullify or really do anything to a tier 1? I’ve sort of been of the state of mind that lower than tier 1’s simply can’t touch anything tier 1 so this is interesting
I mean doesn’t that in and of itself equate to tier 1If the non-tier 1 has higher-dimensional hax then I think they could, but who wins depends on a case-by-case basis probably.
Nah replace accel with my boiI mean doesn’t that in and of itself equate to tier 1
Well, accelerator himself apparently has 11-D vector manipulation, but he isn’t High 1-C. Manipulating time like Asuna can also doesn’t technically make you 4-D (Dimension of time in science) but you still have 4-D hax Idk, it’s confusingI mean doesn’t that in and of itself equate to tier 1
I'll think about it, I'm still waiting for the others to explain what exactly they mean when putting Accelerator and High 1-C in the same context and why exactly I should keep him in this tourney in good conscience
Yeah I feel like he ought to have something to say, I wonder if he’ll have the time to read back for the context thoughI’d wait until Froggy actually gets in on this before deciding on disqualification
WE HAVE A CHANCE BOISI'll think about it, I'm still waiting for the others to explain what exactly they mean when putting Accelerator and High 1-C in the same context and why exactly I should keep him in this tourney in good conscience
Leaning with Emo anime waifu tooOki dokie if accelerator isn’t disqualified though, I’ll be leaning Haruka thanks to nullify disabling vector manipulation, which basically means ALL of his powers
Physically he is at level 7-A, but the level of influence is at 1-HC. The same Golden Mages can't destroy planets and stars, but can still theoretically defeat characters capable of destroying an 11-dimensional universe. So in ToAru, level of destruction doesn't mean level of power. And the same vector control did not become stronger, that is, even Accel from OT can destroy an attack capable of destroying the 11-dimensional universe, the difference between the past and current Accel is that the current Accel has knowledge of magic, that is, the range/influence has improved, but the vector control itself has not become stronger.Come again?
In the 7-A tourney? I’m at a loss for words.
I mean doesn’t that mean that by technicality Haruka would be in the same boat? It feels unorthodox to assume she could do that for something that high dimensional, that doesn't really sit well with me eitherOki dokie if accelerator isn’t disqualified though, I’ll be leaning Haruka thanks to nullify disabling vector manipulation, which basically means ALL of his powers
I don’t really know the context of vector manipulation being 11-D. Does it mean he can affect 11-D stuff? I’ll probably look this up hold onI mean doesn’t that mean that by technicality Haruka would be in the same boat? It feels unorthodox to assume she could do that for something that high dimensional, that doesn't really sit well with me either
I feel like everything is banking on the explanation for all thisI don’t really know the context of vector manipulation being 11-D. Does it mean he can affect 11-D stuff? I’ll probably look this up hold on
Can he in this key do anything offensively relating to anything above High 7-A? Everything, no matter how small or large, if it’s above baseline 6-C by pretty much any amount it’s gotta be restrictedPhysically he is at level 7-A, but the level of influence is at 1-HC. The same Golden Mages can't destroy planets and stars, but can still theoretically defeat characters capable of destroying an 11-dimensional universe. So in ToAru, level of destruction doesn't mean level of power. And the same vector control did not become stronger, that is, even Accel from OT can destroy an attack capable of destroying the 11-dimensional universe, the difference between the past and current Accel is that the current Accel has knowledge of magic, that is, the range/influence has improved, but the vector control itself has not become stronger.
According to this thread, it just means that accelerator can manipulate 11-D vectors, but it doesn’t seem to be specifically some sort of higher powerI feel like everything is banking on the explanation for all this
I think I understand nowAccording to this thread, it just means that accelerator can manipulate 11-D vectors, but it doesn’t seem to be specifically some sort of higher power
NOOOO- /JkI think I understand now
In that case, carry on with the match as normal
Now I’m conflicted again, is he a Smurf or not?? If it takes a Smurf to compete with him… This is getting crazy.I just realized.
Wouldn't Accelerator's powers being 11D in general prevent the power null, as Haruka doesn't have any 11D smurfing feats?
This is a thread from 2018, at that time the profiles on ToAru were even worse than they are now, and they're still bad. And to my memory, NT22 hadn't released at that time, in which Accel reflected the Flaming Sword that could destroy the 11-dimensional universe.According to this thread, it just means that accelerator can manipulate 11-D vectors, but it doesn’t seem to be specifically some sort of higher power
It was made clear in that thread that it isn’t really classified as some higher power. Accelerator is still 3-D by nature. It can just affect 11-D stuff, like how a time traveller can snap his fingers and go back in time, therefore 4-D hax, but power nullification still affects them, since they are still 3-D by nature. Once again unless I’m missing somethinI just realized.
Wouldn't Accelerator's powers being 11D in general prevent the power null, as Haruka doesn't have any 11D smurfing feats?
okay whatFlaming Sword that could destroy the 11-dimensional universe.
Idk why but whenever someone says Smurf in vs threads I think of a Smurf (from the cartoons)Now I’m conflicted again, is he a Smurf or not?? If it takes a Smurf to compete with him… This is getting crazy.
Same nglIdk why but whenever someone says Smurf in vs threads I think of a Smurf (from the cartoons)
Same here, I don’t actually know where the smurf term that the wiki uses comes fromIdk why but whenever someone says Smurf in vs threads I think of a Smurf (from the cartoons)
Uhh if that’s true I don’t think Venefica’s gonna like that budFlaming Sword that could destroy the 11-dimensional universe.
THE DITTO SWEEP IS REALUhh if that’s true I don’t think Venefica’s gonna like that bud
He won’t be able to transform into anything above 7-A budTHE DITTO SWEEP IS REAL
I know but still.He won’t be able to transform into anything above 7-A bud
Now I’m wondering why on the heck none of this came out when the tourney was still taking submissions, I don’t think there was any shenanigans going on but I basically just took froggy’s word for it when accel was submitted the first timeUhh if that’s true I don’t think Venefica’s gonna like that bud
Speaking of smurfs, The only evidence of Smurf profiles on da wiki is thisIdk why but whenever someone says Smurf in vs threads I think of a Smurf (from the cartoons)
Axlven wake up you got a chance buckarooNow I’m wondering why on the heck none of this came out when the tourney was still taking submissions, I don’t think there was any shenanigans going on but I basically just took froggy’s word for it when accel was submitted the first time
Maybe he still has something to say but he won’t be awake for a while
None of this means Axlven would be revivedAxlven wake up you got a chance buckaroo
So many years and I still don't understand what a Smurf isIdk why but whenever someone says Smurf in vs threads I think of a Smurf (from the cartoons)
It's a blogThe rare main wiki profile with comments enabled
DangNone of this means Axlven would be revived