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what does it do in damage? Ive already asked this
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7-A Howling into Hell Tournament: Lysithea von Ordelia vs Genn Greymane
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I don't know what you mean by this. It's just an attack that bypasses durability, and as such, deals heavy damage to enemies that would normally tank, in this case, Lysithea's other attacks.
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Honestly, it just seems like further durability reduction with extra steps.
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Because it is. But anyways, it doesn't really matter in this discussion since Lysithea doesn't even have it
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So... it's a dura neg of unknown quality?
So... why are we discussing it?
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It's just Durability Negation via Spatial Manipulation, so it would spatially distort them or something. Again, not exactly sure what you mean by this.
Because I was clearing up a misconception. Luna A is the spell that ignores durability which Lysithea has, while Luna is a skill that reduces durability, which Lysithea doesn't have. The two aren't the same.
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Does Luna A spatially cut, does it just instant kill the opponent, does it crush organs spatially, WTF does it do!?
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Basically works as a psuedo-black hole that appears directly on top of the opponent. Not necessarily an insta-kill, just deals loads of damage.
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Hmm
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Is it AOE or single target? Because if it hits an area it could be dangerous to use with a 5m starting range.
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It sucks in all nearby opponents, but doesn't affect the user themselves.
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Then I think she takes it.
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How is it dura neg then?
And, if it is, and she spams it(above all of her other spells, I might add) how is she mid-Hax and not High hax?
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Because it's Spatial Hax, and explicitly ignores enemy defenses. Durability Negation doesn't have to one-shot to be Durability Negation.
Idk, I'm not the one who submitted her.
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Then how much is this fixed set of damage compared to her own defense and shit?
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Can't give a specific answer without getting into game mechanics, but "a lot" would be accurate. It would be enough to severely damage her at the very least.
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Final question: is there proof of Ordelia spamming Luna A?
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I didn't consider it as dura neg. It did not even consider that as part of her toolkit.
Also, no. There's no real precedent for her using any spell specifically, outside of the Dark Spikes vs Jeritza meme.
Granted, she is expereinced in war and would realistically would use what is most practical. Considering the 5m distance, the priority bracket in this context would probably be:
- Swarm/Luna/Hades
- Thunderbrand if CQC/Nosferatu for healing
- Everything Else except...
- Training Bow lmao
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Makes sense
If Genn pins her and starts just ******* mauling her what does she do?
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Does she need to be able to properly, you know, MOVE for that?
Plus Genn can just Roar at her real loud and make her tremble in place in fear for a couple of seconds
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Gen FRA
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I'm not sure I haven't played Three Hopes.
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Genn pinning her down is fine and all.
But what stops her from just, backing up? She’s leagues faster than him travel speed wise even with speed equalization, so she can easily just back up and spam spells at a range. Not to mention her having passive amps to her speed, and having speed reduction on top of that.
his Roars also only have a range of 9 meters or so.
But what stops her from just, backing up? She’s leagues faster than him travel speed wise even with speed equalization, so she can easily just back up and spam spells at a range. Not to mention her having passive amps to her speed, and having speed reduction on top of that.
his Roars also only have a range of 9 meters or so.
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Proof of Lysithea's travel speed being more then like, above average human?
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Well, she can zip around rather quickly as a caster.
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Unironically I could see a CRT being made for that TBH
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I feel like I have made a decent explanation for Lysithea's weaker but still decent close quarters game, so it is not too much trouble, can we flip the script and ask about Genn's ranged options?
I'm not surprised if his marksmanship is pretty solid, but unless his gun as a pretty good fire rate, he might just be zoned out from all the magic spam.
I'm not surprised if his marksmanship is pretty solid, but unless his gun as a pretty good fire rate, he might just be zoned out from all the magic spam.
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It's pretty much a blunderbuss lol, genn is not a goblin or gnome, he doesn't have machine guns and shit lol
Also genn's jumps short burst combat speed, so that's something to keep in mind as Lysithea's movement speed seems worse then her combat speed from that video
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It's whats on her profile rn. I don't agree with it either, but I'm going with whats on the profile.
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Honestly some profiles just don't bother to list different speeds lol
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Nice
You could argue for Genn being MHS, I just don't care to make a CRT right now
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If it's second key Tirion, probably not Nemesis (at least in his Resurrected key), since he's undead, and would turn to ash instantly. Byleth maybe depending on how much Tirion upscales from his value, and if he's skilled enough.
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The Ashbringer is straight up 5-B anyway lol, it'd one-Shot nemesis regardless
Regardless Tirion has backwards ass scaling to Illidan's combat skill so make of that as you will
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I should probably mention that Luna Λ (the spell) can only be used twice during a battle, so it's not like Lysithea can spam it like her other spells.
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4 times, actually, due to Lysithea’s skills.
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I'm leaning towards the old pseudo furry for now.
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I feel like this match somewhat relies on whether or not Genn goes melee right off the bat. Keyword being somewhat
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