[6th Round of 7-C Bracket] - Yujiro Hanma vs Ekko (3-7-0)

[KGiffoni]

SM could help with distracting Ekko so he could one-shot.

 

[KGiffoni]

Anyways, Yujiro FRA. If this was SBA, i'd vote Ekko 100% but 1 meter is almost melee range for someone with Yujiro's size.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Sense manip wont help Yujiro stop the alternate universe clones of ekko stopping time for Ekko

 

[BakiHanma18]

Yujiro shouldn't even have durability negation to begin with, at best Cut Cord would. Benda bypassing durability via attacking the skin doesn't mean jack shit if the opponent is already more durable than you are. But I'll address this in the ongoing Yujiro thread.

Ekko FRA.

Why would he need Durability Neg when he can oneshot someone 3x stronger than Ekko?

 

[KGiffoni]

Wait, alternate universe clones?


Please elaborate on that, i'm not known of LoL

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ekko has versions of himself from alternate universes that are able to attack through space-time to help him in combat, including doing stuff like stop time in a set area for him

 

[KGiffoni]

Still, fear aura and madness manip are passives

 

[BakiHanma18]

I think I'll have to agree with Schnee One: unless he starts with Time Stop, Yujiro amps and blitzes

 

[Rocker1189]

If he starts with his timewinder, that won't matter it would act as a protective zone either way that would tear him apart.

 

[KGiffoni]

But that's an action, and Yujiro blitzes by amping + 1m distance, one-shotting.

 

[BakiHanma18]

If he starts with his timewinder, that won't matter it would act as a protective zone either way that would tear him apart.

He's not going to be fast enough. Yujiro's attacks ARE the amps, so within 1 meter, Ekko is dead unless he starts with Time Stop

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I think I'll have to agree with Schnee One: unless he starts with Time Stop, Yujiro amps and blitzes

He does start with timestop

 

[BakiHanma18]

I think I'll have to agree with Schnee One: unless he starts with Time Stop, Yujiro amps and blitzes

He does start with timestop

The only saving grace for the match I can think of now: is there anything that has to be done to TS?

 

[KGiffoni]

Even if Ekko starts with the timestop, until the ability is concluded, Yujiro has one-shot him. Stopping time is an action dependent on reaction speed, since the attack itself is instant. However, Yujiro's amps are moves themselves. With the 1m distance, Yujiro can easily amp and one-shot Ekko before he stops time.

 

[KGiffoni]

Even if Ekko starts with the timestop, until the ability is concluded, Yujiro has one-shot him. Stopping time is an action dependent on reaction speed, since the attack itself is instant. However, Yujiro's amps are moves themselves. With the 1m distance, Yujiro can easily amp and one-shot Ekko before he stops time.

Assuming the ability is thought-based

 

[BakiHanma18]

Even if Ekko starts with the timestop, until the ability is concluded, Yujiro has one-shot him. Stopping time is an action dependent on reaction speed, since the attack itself is instant. However, Yujiro's amps are moves themselves. With the 1m distance, Yujiro can easily amp and one-shot Ekko before he stops time.

Actually, that's true. He would have to react to a blitz, which is, by definition, not possible...

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Implying Yujiro is guaranteed to lead with all of his speed amps simultaneously right out the gate

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Even if Ekko starts with the timestop, until the ability is concluded, Yujiro has one-shot him. Stopping time is an action dependent on reaction speed, since the attack itself is instant. However, Yujiro's amps are moves themselves. With the 1m distance, Yujiro can easily amp and one-shot Ekko before he stops time.

Ekko can teleport away, or use a speed amp himself

 

[KGiffoni]

First is an action, second could work but i think Yujiro's amps are better

 

[KGiffoni]

Implying Yujiro is guaranteed to lead with all of his speed amps simultaneously right out the gate

His amps are attacks him and Baki use all the time, it's not like a secret technique for him or something. I can easily see Yujiro leading with Cockroach Tackle

 

[BakiHanma18]

Implying Yujiro is guaranteed to lead with all of his speed amps simultaneously right out the gate

It's not guaranteed, but it's more likely than not for reasons we discussed

 

[WeeklyBattles]

First is an action, second could work but i think Yujiro's amps are better

Its not an action as his clones are the ones that do it and can send it through time so it happens immediately

 

[KGiffoni]

Then there's passive fear aura and passive madness inducement also via his aura

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Does that work on robots though?

Also just remembered that even human Ekko was able to instantly rewind time after being oneshot by his opponent

 

[KGiffoni]

In this case this match is a stomp.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Fear aura doesn't always work on everyone. Shonen has that tendency to have weaker characters react to fear manip.

So carry on with next round then?

 

[BakiHanma18]

In this case this match is a stomp.

Yeah, if he can rewind his own death a la The Almighty, and he doesn't breath (is a robot), then Yujiro doesn't have a snowball's chance

 

[KGiffoni]

Fear aura doesn't always work on everyone. Shonen has that tendency to have weaker characters react to fear manip.
So carry on with next round then?

It worked on everyone that wasn't a 10th Dan in Karate or something in these lines. God, It even worked on trained soldiers. You have to excel the average joe psychologically to resist it, and Ekko doesn't seem to fall into that description.


Ekko should be left out of the tournament for being too haxxy, as people have suggested above.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

I remember that feat. I don't think that's necessarily an issue of haxx and more "Jesus this guy is strong!! I want to live and not die!!" because they know they're ****** by being tiers below. Ekko isn't.

That said this topic seems about done so no need to proceed on that.

Makes sense. Yujiro proceeds then no?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ekko's time rwind is stamina based, if he uses it too much he gets exhausted and when he does so he doesnt fully heal himself

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ekko's time rwind is stamina based, if he uses it too much he gets exhausted and when he does so he doesnt fully heal himself

 

[KGiffoni]

Doppo also was tiers below when he fought Yujiro yet he could be unnafected by his aura. I think it's more like a question of how strong your psychologic is.


I'm not sure, let's wait for Zack to say something.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Wait, who are the people who agreed this is a stomp? Is it only 2 people?

And well if rewind is like that, that actually allows for a fair match. What exactly makes this stompy aside from Yujiro losing even with his amp usage?

@KG

Then that feels more like it's a determination and shonen thing. We've seen this before on shonen.

That said if it's by pscyhe well... literally most non-mook characters have that.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Like i said, its not that this match is a stomp, its just that Yujiro got put up against literally the worst possible opponent he could get in this bracket

 

[KGiffoni]

What are Yujiro's wincons?

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

^

If he doesn't have any, well, he might just be booted. That said I don't think Ekko's that anymore unfair than Yujiro. What are the usual opponents in this bracket?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

^

If he doesn't have any, well, he might just be booted. That said I don't think Ekko's that anymore unfair than Yujiro. What are the usual opponents in this bracket?

Sayaka Miki

This should answer your question

 

[BakiHanma18]

Like i said, its not that this match is a stomp, its just that Yujiro got put up against literally the worst possible opponent he could get in this bracket

If Ekko starts with TS and his clones can do it from a point in which they can't be interacted with and place the TS at any point in time they wish, and Ekko can rewrite his death and use Timewinder, how could Yujiro win

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Baki Ekko cant rewrite his death, when did i say that?

 

[BakiHanma18]

Does that work on robots though?
Also just remembered that even human Ekko was able to instantly rewind time after being oneshot by his opponent

This? Or am I misunderstanding?