[6th Round of 7-C Bracket] - Yujiro Hanma vs Ekko (3-7-0)

[Moritzva]

This Ekko dude looks like he can stomp the entire participants of the 7-C Bracket...

Ed: "My Magical Girl is going to stomp!"

Weekly:

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Would restricting it to human Ekko make it more fair?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Also since when did ekko have passive speed amps? His speed amp requires him to land hits on his opponent

 

[BakiHanma18]

If speed amps aren't passive as I was informed, 0.5 might still work, at which point Yujiro can use his speed amp to land 1 move on Ekko (we've never seen 0.5 used in conjunction with more than 1 move per use, so it's assumed that while its active, he can only use 1 move, then the timeframe is over)

 

[BakiHanma18]

Would restricting it to human Ekko make it more fair?

For this fight, I couldn't say, since making him human means Yujiro would oneshot, but on the other hand, it would seem that a oneshot is Yujiro's only viable win con

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Really? All of Yujiro's skill and techniques arent enough?

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

I feel like with all of Yujiro's techniques, he would at least stand a chance. Or at least Ekko isn't the type to completely have Yujiro go from Stomp to Get stomped

 

[Schnee_One]

AP difference?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Depends, whats Yujiro's AP?

 

[Schnee_One]

Stomps 15 Kiloton characters, far above 60 in DB

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ekko scales above 5.8 Kilotons but his sword and Timewinder ignore durability

 

[Schnee_One]

So Yujiro has a stomp worthy AP advantage regardless

If Ekko does Time Stop and kill at the start in character he should take it

 

[BakiHanma18]

So 0.5 into something like Cockroach Tackle should give this to Yujiro, no? Ekko can't react and Yujiro massively amps his speed and decently amps his already higher AP.

 

[Rocker1189]

>Zekka

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

Hey I'm gonna go Mid with Zekka

Anyway 0.5 is kinda countered by robot Project thingy iirc

 

[WeeklyBattles]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3809334

 

[ZackMoon1234]

What are the votes

Or who is voting for who

I'm still iffy about letting Ekko stay in the 7-C Bracket due to his Time Manipulation abilities shit but if the supporters for him think it's fine for him to stay, then so be it

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I mean his time manip really isnt abuseable, the only reason this is an issue is because the majority of yujiro's 'hax' dont work on non-human opponents

 

[BakiHanma18]

I mean his time manip really isnt abuseable, the only reason this is an issue is because the majority of yujiro's 'hax' dont work on non-human opponents

^ accurate, but wouldn't it also be unfair to make Ekko human, because that opens the floodgates to a ton of "hax"?

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Bump

No votes?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yujiro got put up against possibly the worst opponent he could get in this bracket lol

But yeah im voting Ekko

 

[Rocker1189]

I am up for Ekko too, timewinder gg.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Oh yeah lol we never really even discussed the timewinder did we

 

[BakiHanma18]

I'll vote Yujiro for 0.5 and stomp-worthy AP as well as speed amps, but I'm very shaky on that vote

 

[WeeklyBattles]

But we agreed that .5 doesnt work on machines

 

[BakiHanma18]

But we agreed that .5 doesnt work on machines

I'm not entirely sure, as it's technically a timespan, to be more precise, the timespan to go from triggered (processing info) to acting (reaction). In his transformation to a robot, is his reaction time/process different?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It is faster than when he was a human yes, though what exactly does Yujiro have that can oneshot ekko? I though tthe thing that was argued to oneshot was Whip Strike which wont work against a machine

 

[Schnee_One]

AP

 

[BakiHanma18]

Ekko is roughly 6KT, Yujiro stomps 15KT in base

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ah

But yeah .5 shouldn't work on PROJECT ekko

 

[KGiffoni]

Here we go

What can Ekko do?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Dura negating sword

Aoe timestop

Attack through time by use od passively active clones of himself feom alternate timelines

Tear apart yujiro's time with the timewinder

Reverse damage yujiro potentially does to him with chrononreak

7-C foecefields

Teleportation

 

[KGiffoni]

This seems like a stomp but i'll read the thread carefully when i get home

 

[Ciruno_Fortes]

It' a one shot vs oneshot.

Reversing damage is pointless if you get oneshotted.

Anyway if this is somehow not a stomp, Ekko should win this. 0.5 seconds won't work on the first place.

On one interpretation it only works under the assumption/equalization that all humans subconsciously react 0.5 seconds before action.

On the better interpretation, since speed is equalized and if you take it as something of max value prediction, it still takes time to analyze the opponent before you can use it. Since after all, it's basically a glorified analytical prediction ability. Not to mention Yujiro likely won't expect a time stop from an opponent.

So stomp or not, Ekko proceeds on the tourney. Not sure if Ekko's a fair candidate though

 

[BakiHanma18]

Dura negating sword
Aoe timestop

Attack through time by use od passively active clones of himself feom alternate timelines

Tear apart yujiro's time with the timewinder

Reverse damage yujiro potentially does to him with chrononreak

7-C foecefields

Teleportation

What is the FF made of, can Yujiro break it or get past it, and if so, what's its durability? If it's 5KT like Ekko, any of Yujiro's speed-amp moves could break through and a few could do so in a blitz-like manner (giving Yujiro a chance to attack Ekko and oneshot before getting TS or yeeted by a clone's TW)

 

[KGiffoni]

Yeah, Yujiro has a shit ton of amps that he could exploit here. And it's not even SBA with its 4km, it's LITERALLY 1 meter.


There's also sense manip and illusion creation that Yujiro can use to distract Ekko, 0.5s Unconscious... really, If Ekko doesn't literally start with one of his haxxes immediately, he's dead. There's also Yujiro's passive aura that causes fear to the point of paralyzation and madness as well.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@KG How would sense manip work on a robot?

we've already discussed why .5 wont work here

Ekko leads with his hax in character

 

[KGiffoni]

Yujiro's sense manip worked on TV cameras, it probably would work in a robot

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Yujiro shouldn't even have durability negation to begin with, at best Cut Cord would. Benda bypassing durability via attacking the skin doesn't mean jack shit if the opponent is already more durable than you are. But I'll address this in the ongoing Yujiro thread.


Ekko FRA.

 

[BakiHanma18]

Would he even need SM? Can't he just amp oneshot from the get-go?