Ganon vs Medaka Box's best character

[TriforcePower1]

I've just finished a week ago Medaka Box, so I decided to celebrate it by making Medaka Box characters fight Zelda ones. Yay!

Ganon vs Kumagawa

I'm thinking this is fair under the assumption that All-Fiction can erase souls. If that's wrong, feel free to close the match.

Both at their strongest, and speed is equalized

Ganondorf: 2 (Konaguna, Agnaa)

Misogi Kumagawa: 7 (Schnee, Iapitus, Causality, Common Sense, Firephoenixearl, Paul, Zack)

Inconclusive:

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Ganon resists EE, Kumagawa is Kumagawa. Bookmaker is effective but it still doesn't bypass the regen. Pseudo infinite speed may or may not work due to Ganon's temporal resistance. I can't really think of ways for Ganon to put down Kumagawa either.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Wouldn't Dimensional BFR work?

Also, Ganondorf's resistance to EE shouldn't be enough to resist All-Fiction.

 

[Schnee_One]

Why not?

 

[TriforcePower1]

Because All-Fiction is more Causality Manipulation than EE. It erases stuff by deleting the cause and not the thing itself.

 

[Konaguna]

Ganon creates Dark Kumagawa and solos

 

[TriforcePower1]

I'm honestly unsure to count this or no, because while it's possible to happen, it would be like, the last thing Ganon would try.

Actually, no, that doesn't mean he can win as Kumagawa's powers come from his twisted mind, not something that can be replicated with mindless puppets.

 

[Schnee_One]

Anyway

Misogi bookmaker blitzes, uses Bookmaker to make Ganon less intelligent, and then erases

 

[Konaguna]

Okay so, how does Kumagawa come back from getting wished to lose or sumthin? cuz Ganon gonna go for a wish

 

[TriforcePower1]

Anyway

Misogi bookmaker blitzes, uses Bookmaker to make Ganon less intelligent, and then erases

Uh... He, like, never does that?

 

[Schnee_One]

Really?

Cause that's what I hear literally every fight

 

[TriforcePower1]

Okay so, how does Kumagawa come back from getting wished to lose or sumthin? cuz Ganon gonna go for a wish

Manipulates Causality to erase his own death even some time after he dies. That's something he constantly does in the series.

 

[Konaguna]

someone who has read MB tell me what Misogi star off with most often.

 

[PaChi2]

Ganon resists EE, Kumagawa is Kumagawa. Bookmaker is effective but it still doesn't bypass the regen. Pseudo infinite speed may or may not work due to Ganon's temporal resistance. I can't really think of ways for Ganon to put down Kumagawa either.

Friendly reminder that what Kumagawa does is Causality manipulation.

 

[The_Causality]

Kumagawa don't really "Manipulate" Causality but Erase it, something that Ganon can't handle tho

 

[Iceassassin25]

Would Misogi lose due to his whole "never wins the important battles" thing that happens alot

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

someone who has read MB tell me what Misogi star off with most often.

Pseudo Time Stop + Sealing

 

[Schnee_One]

^Called it

 

[Konaguna]

Okay so he's gonna break out of the seal, but i'm not sure how Psuedo time stop works, if it is Causality manip then he's ******

 

[TriforcePower1]

someone who has read MB tell me what Misogi star off with most often.

Screws around. Literally ovo

On a more serious note, he reverses anything done to him with All-Fiction, and has shown to start either by throwing giant screws to the enemy or erase his time to hit them with giant screws at infinite speed, as well as using Book Maker which is power null. He has shown to be able to erase people, too, but not in a combat situation (but if he survives long enough against Ganon, he's probably going to do it when he realizes nothing else works).

 

[Konaguna]

So what are his chances of getting out of the dark world?

I noticed Misogi resists none of what dark world does so if he gets in it, he's done for

 

[TriforcePower1]

Causality Manipulation doesn't really let him get away from Dimensional BFR which this Ganon likes to spam. That's why Ganon has a good chance despite how broken All Fiction is.

 

[The_Causality]

Causality Manipulation doesn't really let him get away from Dimensional BFR which this Ganon likes to spam. That's why Ganon has a good chance despite how broken All Fiction is.

Actually, he can escape from move like BFR with AF

 

[TriforcePower1]

Dimensional one? He just doesn't have the range. Also, when did it happen? I remember him getting away from sealing but that's not the same thing.

 

[Konaguna]

He ain't escaping the dark world when he's getting passively Negated, Transmuted and Madness maniped all at the same time

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I vote Kumagawa via either all fiction book Maker blitz or Book Maker spawn. If he goes for screw spawn, then Ganon survives and can win if he goes straight for BFR. However, this is pretty unlikely. For these reasons I vote Kumagawa

 

[The_Causality]

@Triforce range isn't really relevant here, All Fiction work by Erasing Causality (not me), he could actually erase the cause of the BFR ang magically bring him back

@Konaguna Minus can't be negated, Transmutation could work but can be negated by AF again and Madness...it's Kumagawa so i don't think this work

 

[TriforcePower1]

Yeah, but the cause is in an another dimension, so he cannot reach it. Also, small correction, Minuses cannot be erased, not negated.

Ganon leads with it btw

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Yeah, but the cause is in an another dimension, so he cannot reach it.
Ganon leads with it btw

You are right, Ganon does lead with this. However, it is not instant, and Kumagawa still likely does what I mentioned above before he gets taken out. Only way Ganon is successful is if he does the screw spawn which he can survive

 

[Konaguna]

What you mean can't be negated? Thas some NLF, explain please.

Unless Kumagawa's shit passive, then he isn't doing anything because the moment he comes to DW is the moment he gets shanked by all three things, which btw come directly from the Triforce that sustains the world

 

[Schnee_One]

Ganon doesn't BFR unless he's close

Kumagawa FRA

 

[The_Causality]

What you mean can't be negated? Thas some NLF, explain please.
Unless Kumagawa's shit passive, then he isn't doing anything because the moment he comes to DW is the moment he gets shanked by all three things, which btw come directly from the Triforce that sustains the world

Minus Resist to Power Null

Already explained why this likely don't work above.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

All Fiction is only passive when Kumagawa dies. If the BFR incapacitates, then Ganon takes this

 

[TriforcePower1]

@Iap Doesn't Kumagawa lead much more with screws spam rather than pretty much every other thing? He also used his ability to remove his own time once, maybe twice.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

All Fiction is only passive when Kumagawa dies. If the BFR incapacitates, then Ganon takes this

Ganon could, but he does not use it in character fast enough to get it off before Kumagawa seals him

 

[Iceassassin25]

Does ganon always start with BFR? As doesn't he mostly just fight link in like most people do? Up close

 

[TriforcePower1]

4-B Ganon spams BFR the entire game, sending everyone that stood in his way to the dark world, only using once mindhax to brainwash the Hyrulean army. He fights normally Link because Link has the anti-Ganon's hax Sword.

 

[Konaguna]

all he does is think and he BFRS, it literally happens in a flash, it's like the second thing he'd do after the triforce

 

[The_Causality]

@Triforce Can you send me the BFR stuff? i need to see it.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

@Iap Doesn't Kumagawa lead much more with screws spam rather than pretty much every other thing? He also used his ability to remove his own time once, maybe twice.

He leads with book Maker spawn when he has it, which he does. Or time stop to book Maker blitz. He only really prioritizes normal screw spawn when he doesn't have book maker