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It had to be done | Naruto and Sasuke vs Luffy and Zoro | 11-0-0 (grace ended)

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The 5-C downgrade happened for Naruto
Now it's time for One Piece vs Naruto again
War Arc Six Paths Naruto and Sasuke are used
Luffy and Zoro are both Post Wano
Pirates are >33.6 Exatons, and Luffy is 1.381 Zettatons with the Bajrang Gun
Ninja's are 88 Exatons in Base, 177 Exatons in SPSM, and 266 Exatons with Asura Avatar, Indra's Arrow and the Majestic Attire Susano'o (I might have gotten the ap values wrong)
They start in their base and can transform
Speed is not equalized
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Naruto and sasuke are 2.11 C

While Luffy and zoro go anywhere between 3.61 C to 8.74 C

Sooooo difference from 1.7109004739336493 to 4.1421800947867299 times

So slightly faster to blitzing
 
Sinpokefan said:
Naruto and sasuke are 2.11 C

While Luffy and zoro go anywhere between 3.61 C to 8.74 C

Sooooo difference from 1.7109004739336493 to 4.1421800947867299 times

So slightly faster to blitzing
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That's not blitzing range

Edit It's still a huge advantage though
 
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Kachon123 said:
In what way?

How so?
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Genjutsu knocks people out haven’t you seen Naruto? Let’s put genjutsu aside for now. Any counters to chibaku tensei, Truth seeker orbs, insane statistics amplification for Naruto and Sasuke, Amaterasu plus other attacks, shadow clones with biju clocks and etc.
 
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speedster352 said:
Genius knocks people out haven’t you seen Naruto?
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Kenbun allows Zoro and Luffy to either fight while sleeping, or simply wake up from sleeping.
speedster352 said:
Any counters to chibaku tensei
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Far greater LS, and attacks that can go through far stronger gravity.
speedster352 said:
Truth seeker orbs
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Buso Emission to avoid getting hit.
speedster352 said:
insane statistics amplification for Naruto and Sasuke
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Their own stat amps.
speedster352 said:
Amaterasu plus other attacks
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Buso Emission.
speedster352 said:
shadow clones
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Haoshoku Haki.
speedster352 said:
biju clocks
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I don't know what a biju clock is.
 
Kachon123 said:
Kenbun allows Zoro and Luffy to either fight while sleeping, or simply wake up from sleeping.

Far greater LS, and attacks that can go through far stronger gravity.

Buso Emission to avoid getting hit.

Their own stat amps.

Buso Emission.

Haoshoku Haki.

I don't know what a biju clock is.
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That’s great and all but their minds would still be wrecked by Genjutsu. Sasuke chibaku tensei makes them the core itself and it would basically be genjutsu plus chibaku tensei just like it was with the tailed beast. But they can’t attack Naruto because of the truth seeker orbs which he can add into his attacks that have massive aoe. Also if he harnesses all the nature energy on the planet he would get exponentially stronger. Anyway try getting the naruto supporters.
 
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That’s great and all but their minds would still be wrecked by Genjutsu
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In what way and based on what? Buso in general allows resistance to mind manipulation via Viola's devil fruit and characters in One Piece are immune to mental attacks and mind manipulation via willpower. Those two added on top Kenbun would make them unaffected by Sasuke's genjutsu.
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Sasuke chibaku tensei makes them the core itself
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That works similar in nature to Kid's devil fruit, which they could resist via Haki.
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they can’t attack Naruto because of the truth seeker orbs which he can add into his attacks that have massive aoe
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Naruto only has nine of these. A single Gum Gum Jet Gatling coated in Buso Emission would get rid of these.
 
Isn't one piece illusions type mostly just knocking them out? Or am I mistaken?

Naruto's illusions are far more complex, and in most cases, the knockout effect is just a side effect due to the mind being controlled
 
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Actually Sasuke has the rinnegan which is stated in the databook to have the most powerful genjutsu so it’s another layer so maybe 8 to 9 layers
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i never knew 3+1 was 8 and 4+1 was 9
Wait so where do the extra layers come from
 
Jaakor48 said:
Isn't one piece illusions type mostly just knocking them out? Or am I mistaken?

Naruto's illusions are far more complex, and in most cases, the knockout effect is just a side effect due to the mind being controlled
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Its treated the same way for both sides on this site im pretty sure
 
Kachon123 said:
In what way and based on what? Buso in general allows resistance to mind manipulation via Viola's devil fruit and characters in One Piece are immune to mental attacks and mind manipulation via willpower. Those two added on top Kenbun would make them unaffected by Sasuke's genjutsu.

That works similar in nature to Kid's devil fruit, which they could resist via Haki.

Naruto only has nine of these. A single Gum Gum Jet Gatling coated in Buso Emission would get rid of these.
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What do you mean unaffected I am pretty sure Sasuke rinnegan genjutsu is above the verse which was reiterated in the databook. Why would haki stop the effects of the truth seeker orbs? Also breaking them won’t cause them to vanish that’s not how they work. Kakashi kamui part of madara TSB and it regenerated. Sasuke chibaku tensei is the strongest since it affected the biju who mind you could bust out of it(the nine tails did so) so it’s above baseline.
 
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