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a Plumber fights a Mafia Boss (GRACE)

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weird, noobody ever maked this match (Expect in 2016 with weird logic being used)
btw since Mario got upgraded let's see how this go

  • Giorno with GER
  • Mario with Power Star
  • Speed Equalizzed
  • Distance: at peak 10 metres

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Mario:

Giorno:

Incon: 7 (deonment, Lord_JJJ , Rez, Maverick_Zero_X, Ned_the_outer_god,Chariot190,Lou_change)
 
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What's next? Giorno RtZs everyone on the wiki? **** off.
Anyone on the wiki who doesn't resist it or can do something about it, yeah, that's kinda how this works.

I'm more concerned with why you feel the need to enter threads and exclaim disdain for certain characters, as if that actually matters or effects anything. Don't like the character? Cool, don't enter the thread, alternatively, keep it to yourself, could you imagine if people argued based on how much they like or dislike something rather than feats or facts? Or if people acted like you do in matches with characters they don't like? It'd do nothing but incite a flame war.
 
Anyone on the wiki who doesn't resist it or can do something about it, yeah, that's kinda how this works.

I'm more concerned with why you feel the need to enter threads and exclaim disdain for certain characters, as if that actually matters or effects anything. Don't like the character? Cool, don't enter the thread, alternatively, keep it to yourself, could you imagine if people argued based on how much they like or dislike something rather than feats or facts? Or if people acted like you do in matches with characters they don't like? It'd do nothing but incite a flame war.
he is trolling, don't listen to him
 
Wait can Giorno re-age Mario? (More clearly do we assume that Giorno can re-age like he can age stuff?) He can return him to a baby or even an embryo, Mario wouldn't be dead in that case but will be unable to fight

Sure Giorno didn't done that before, but he surely will think in other multiple senarios after RtZ for billions of times
 
Wait can Giorno re-age Mario? (More clearly do we assume that Giorno can re-age like he can age stuff?) He can return him to a baby or even an embryo, Mario wouldn't be dead in that case but will be unable to fight

Sure Giorno didn't done that before, but he surely will think in other multiple senarios after RtZ for billions of times
not showed so
 
Mario's fate hax will protect him from Return to Zero's most dangerous effects that permanently incaps or kills him as Return to Zero has no feats to counter it and GER doesn't have the knowledge to stop, so Mario eventually breaks out and after that wins.
 
Mario's fate hax will protect him from Return to Zero's most dangerous effects that permanently incaps or kills him as Return to Zero has no feats to counter it and GER doesn't have the knowledge to stop, so Mario eventually breaks out and after that wins.
Problem is, RTZ negates that same fate hax and Mario would be standing there not being able to do something
 
Problem is, RTZ negates that same fate hax and Mario would be standing there not being able to do something
the problem with that is it doesnt have feats against fate hax for 1, and 2 wouldn't be affecting gio himself but ger/ or the rtz
 
Mario's fate hax will protect him from Return to Zero's most dangerous effects that permanently incaps or kills him as Return to Zero has no feats to counter it and GER doesn't have the knowledge to stop, so Mario eventually breaks out and after that wins.
That isn't how this works, or even how RTZ works.
And it isn't something that you break out of, even with fate hax, it's simply making it so a thing didn't happen.
Fate hax doesn't help with that, and fate hax is honestly something that isn't the best thing to use against GER, given his prior involvement with fate and the like.
And even if he does somehow get around RTZ, what's he gonna do exactly? He can't kill GER, RTZ prevents any damage from transpiring against them (Because mind you, RTZ isn't exclusive to enemies, it can be used on themselves or things in general).
If Mario can't resist RTZ, he can't defeat GER, best he can get is a stalemate as RTZ is a semi-automatic ability that will prevent any action taken against Gio.

All the fate hax does is make it so Mario has to be able to save Peach in the future. GER has a way around that if he wanted to force a stalemate, just keep reversing everything to a point in the past, as such Peach will never get kidnapped in the future, and Mario will never need to rescue her, as reality won't progress. Because reminder, GER can return the whole universe back to a prior point, if GER wants a stalemate, he's getting a stalemate.
the problem with that is it doesnt have feats against fate hax for 1, and 2 wouldn't be affecting gio himself but ger/ or the rtz
Actually, it does, why do you think Diavolo's guaranteed future that is fated to happen never happened against GER? Part 5's whole motif is that of fate and sleeping slaves. RTZ can prevent things, even things fated to occur, from transpiring.

Even the guide points out how even if Diavolo sees a future where he won, it won't happen.
 
Actually, it does, why do you think Diavolo's guaranteed future that is fated to happen never happened against GER? Part 5's whole motif is that of fate and sleeping slaves. RTZ can prevent things, even things fated to occur, from transpiring.
doesnt RTZ only stop stuff happening to Giorno himself or am I misremebering
 
doesnt RTZ only stop stuff happening to Giorno himself or am I misremebering

Gio, GER, literally everything based on his time skip reversal, even things that happened in the past (at least within a tiny bit), or others, there's no "It only works for things against Gio" rule, in fact, that's why Diavolo is still dying to this day, RTZ was used on Diavolo's death so it'd never come to pass, forcing him to experiencing dying infinitely but never actually die.

It's why it's semi-automatic, the automacy prevents actions and the like taken against Gio or to take action when they otherwise can't, the semi part of that is for other shit.
 
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