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He generates flames from ethernano within his body which is utilised like a sort of a fuel but his flames still require oxygen once they are created to maintain their form and keep on existing outside Natsu.
To put it simple Natsu could waste all of his magically energy to generate flames but...
There is no oxygen underwater thus he can't create fire, the end.
It has nothing to do with heat of his flames. Bunch of geniuses around here these days.
So, i wake up this morning thinking "Hey, I haven't visited vs battle wiki in a while" - I take my phone and go to the site. I find this discussion and while drinking tea and looking at the comments i find that thing up there... I read the answers on that comment...
I don't have the courage to...
I was up for downgrading high 7-A to at least 7-A time ago so I'm fine with that.
Brandish on the other side was casually far above Mard geer so having serious Spriggans 7-A is perfectly fine(she even has a random 64 megaton feat). Consider that God Serena casually God stomped Jura and other 3...
Mami won't have the time to bind her with ribbons. The moment Mami launches even a single attack at her, Dimaria will cut her head off. Just look what happened with Wendy.
Consider that Mami is also a range player and the fact Dimaria can also stop time before the ribbons touch her even if Mami...
It's written limited flight for a reason.
Discarding all defence and focusing on attack is quite literraly why that is her most powerful offensive "armor". And it's actually not the armor but her blades in which she infuses her magic for attack and since she doesn't need to use magic for...
Pretty sure that wasn't truly Zeldoris but just a part of his energy left within Elisabteh after he gave her back her memory, which explaines why Zeldoris acted like he saw adult Merlin for the first time when he came to retrieve one of the comandaments.
The fact he was doing similar things as a child would give him max gifted, but not genius lvl.
And no matter how you describe it, all he did was put the blame on someone else for something he did and that is not impressive.
Plus you just said it was easy for him to do that due to the influence...
He just decived everyone making them think their King is the bad person it's nothing more than that, pretty smart and cunning but not Genius lvl.
It's like what that dog dude did with Goku just in a diffrent contest, make Goku look responsible for every bad thing and make yourself look good...
As said i agree that the example with Celestials is up there, but everything else doesn't seem that impressive to give you genius lvl, honestly i would be fine with "Criminal genius" as it's also part of his character, but everything else is really not that impressive.
I see nothing genius lvl there(except for what he did with celestial dudes)...
Seriously the last part which is the one where Luffy got genius lvl as well is funny since the reasoning is "he learned how to use his power in most efficient way"< that's not genius lvl at all.
Using simple...
Meliodas was part of 10 comandaments or you all forgot lol and likes of fairy King, giant King and that guy Meliodas killed after he was revived weren't actual comandaments.
Any spell no matter how strong in a game can hurt an opponent unless they have a specific immunity on it.
Have you ever played an mmorpg? You can deal damage with anything to anyone(with exception above) and this anime is an mmorpg based. In games of the kind you can't apply the rule of hurting...
No, because those spells are not even comparable to Super tier magic. The example with Shalltear is something you should drop cause it's her weakness.
You also say we can't even compare anything to super tier spell yet you want to put lower spells on the same tier even tho super tier spells are...
Maximize magic or triple maximise magic which he always uses doesn't really boost his destructive power, but rather casts 3 versions of the same spell as he did with realty slash, obsidian sword etc... This allows him to cover up greater area and have better chances to hit his enemie.
And again...
That's interesting fan theory, but prove it. The tiring exist for a reason in the show and it was never contradicted from what I remember so unless you have actual legit proof of what you say i don't see space for discussion.
It was never stated that the strength of one spell(like tier 1 spell)...
Actually his tier should varie depending on spell he uses not be direct 6-C because a tier 2 spell is not as strong as tier 6 spell etc. Saying he is 6-C with everything is wrong.
It was shown that damage output depends on tier of the spell you use, the example with Shalltear as said above is...
The "only" problem with FT is friendship speech power up, tho lets not overdo it Super is worse at this point. It's practically Naruto and one piece type of story (a mix of two), but with magic and better fan service...
That said we derail here.