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It is a real argument tho. Just because a character has more experience than another doesn't mean that they're more skilled. Garou for example, skillstomps Sasuke and everyone in the verse, and he's only 18. Not saying Zoro is Garou, but considering the very obvious difference in how the two...
What? You can't just make up fallacies…
The otsutsuki combat experience is what makes karma a dangerous weapon. Boruto literally goes from 6-C to 5-C thanks to Karma and Code still considers the experience amp THE main reason why it makes the user stronger
Unless Zoros skill can breach an AP...
Appeal to experience fallacy. A 1000 year old swordsman is fodder without statements or feats, and none have done anything like Zoro.
Those speed amps are blitz amps that can straight up make people who can percieve Zoro and predict him with Kenbun completely helpless, the same Kenbun that can...
Sasuke was fighting on par with someone who had millenia of combat experience when their only combat ability were close range weapons. He beat 1000 trained shinobi without fatally wounding a single one of them at the same time at the age of 16. He absolutely is a master swordsman
Dura Upgrade:
Zeus can fight against BlackBeard
So Zeus should both be City Block level in Dura but due to fairly low ap he should still just have 9-B ap
All people with shields should have 8-B with shields since they can take hits from 8-B units despite similar strength units getting oneshotted...
Been thinking on doing this for some time, but was hesitant because of just how dense comics are.
Kryptonian and Saiyan Hybrid. To make this absolutely fair, I'm compositing Saiyan Physiology across continuties, so Super, GT, Toei Anime, etc.
Well, for one this guy would have virtually...
I want to try and contribute to the development of this thread, so that's why I'm here.
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I'll start perhaps with the first of the points. Calculations of attack potential and destructive capacity of characters are very much in touch with the narrative component, in many poems, for...
makima should be able to re-summon some of them even after they're killed since even though they were one shotted by pochita a lot of times they can still come bac.
is his mind manip layered? otherwise it would just become a battle for control since makima is already using her mind control on...
In that case, Morgan Yu will be even more incentivize to use either mass-destructive attacks or if my aforementioned theoretical plan is used, more enemies for Makima. Morgan Yu has Black Hole Creation with Recycler Charge that will reduce the summoned devils, fiends, and zombies to their...
We already do this... If you see a verse with questionable multiplier use, you can make a thread to check it out. Currently though, we require evidence of a multiplier being valid and the higher the multiplier, the more evidence is required, which includes evidence that it's not inconsistent...
Continued from here since that thread likely won't revive, so here I am. Remember to post the reasons of why the characters scale to a specific level, whether based off Calculations or Scaling Chains. If two or more characters for the same verson scale to the same value, then just post...
I'd agree, but in this case there's literally like a 1000+ feats contradicting the 40 ton thing
and only like, 20-25 for magenta, half of which arent direct, man dbz really didn't spec into LS wtf
I agree with you on these points. We should use possibly or likely. And we need feats close to the level in question in the verse.
Completely agree on this point. The multiplier should definitely be reviewed and in the case of Black Clover, Ichika and Asta are Low 5-B so Asta can just solo...
Is that so?
Argue with Greg not us.
Like let's assume Gojo wasn't the strongest because of pure stats but Jujutsu technique. Then how come Kenjaku, the guy with millions of cursed spirits, barrier techniques rivaling Tengen, 1000+ years of Jujutsu experience, 4 different CTs, an open barrier...
Of the 2, Shukaku is the only one who matters to my point, as Gyuki gives no special abilities besides the ability to produce ink, and even then, not having Magnet release doesn't diminish the argument in anyway.
The trend of hyperfocusing on a minor detail of the argument which doesn't affect...
Hello everyone!
I have been sitting on this site for many years and vsb has become a place for me where I can have a great discussion with other people and have an interesting time with calculations. I wanted to write this thread a few months ago, but I couldn't get my thoughts together because...
It’s short but 5 minutes in a fight while he’s blitzing will be a while. Not to mention Deku’s air attacks have massive AOE that could easily wipe away a few tens of clones. It just doesn’t seem too good for Naruto trying to cope with that
That's just factually wrong. He got the 1-8 tailed beast chakra from them when he was FIGHTING Obito, Son Goku was the first to give him his chakra, followed by the rest as he broke the Chakra rods on their body.
Also all the FRA for a reason that do not make sense.
Speed blitz? For a mode he...
Speed is equalized and Naruto starts with Shadow Clones, so even if Deku goes for a speed amp, he won't know which Naruto to hit.
1/1000+ chance to hit the right one.
It's very strange that I've not seen people bring up the main thing that Naruto does against the stronger people he fights.
His unpredictability. Naruto can easily surprise people with analytical prediction such as Sharingan users, Byakugan users, Rinnegan users and in the case of Kaguya...
question 1. let's say we have bulls or giant characters that are 1,000 meters high and can run at a speed of 1000m/s which takes only 0.1 seconds to accelerate to that speed.
question 2. let's say we have 1000 giant iron rods and one character used his telekinesis to accelerate the speed of...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Cells_at_Work!
After much time cells at work isn't a verse of "small but unknow size" as I present now the calc nlog that will change It
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:JustANormalLemon/Cells_at_Work_size
With this 3 ends we have the ability to...
I think Dragon Ball characters from the Late Red Ribbon army arc and beyond should be at least Class M because Tao was able to exert 470.227 Metric Tons of force very casually, and 470.227 Metric Tons is not far off from 1000 Metric Tons of force which is the low end for Class M, it's not...
That's kinda what I meant to ask, especially bcos 2-C and above characters are not limited to 4 dimensions. Also, we are talking about the range of effectiveness not necessarily the outcome of what happens and potency is not that relevant to the range.
I am aware of this.
Low 2-C multipliers...