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One has reached the pinnacle of swordsmanship. One relies soley on swordsmanship, one relies mainly on chakra and the abilities to come from it.
Sasuke is not a swordsman first and foremost. I'm not saying that Sasuke is a bad swordsman, nor am i saying Sasuke would be skill stomped...
Black-Whip can't do much, Shanks can counter Gear-shift and probably also skill stomps given that he's comparable to Mihawk who scales astronomically above Zoro in terms of skill.
Basically everything Deku has, Shanks has the right answer for.
I'll happily slam you in a Sasuke vs Zoroskill debate. Sasuke objectively is not on Zoro's level in terms of swordsmanship.
Has that been verified on the layers evaluation thread?
Also the fact that anyone is genuinely arguing that Sasuke is a better swordsman than Zoro is smoking some good ass meth. Sasuke is more tactical, but his arsenal isn't just swordsmanship. He's probably better than Zoro at hand to hand, but saying Sasuke, who rarely ever showcases actual skill...
Should be a simple thread given the fact that neither character will be receiving a change in stats or abilities. Rather this thread will aim to bump the intelligence of the two most renowned swordsmen, shout-out to @UchihaSlayer96 and @Eminiteable for the helping either providing the...
Uhhhh what? No that's not the case in the slightest. Hacchan is not a dog shit swordsman, not sure where the hell you got that from outside of sheer downplay. Hacchan is directly stated to be a better swordman than most humans due to extra limbs and how agile and fluid the movements with said...
That's utterly meaningless. It's an Otsutuski, an immortal with tons of hax and a ridiculous AP advantage against 98% of the verse.
Me and @Godernet have already discussed the skill portion privately since the majority of you honestly can't argue for skill for shit. I'm not even trying to be...
Yeah I'm not seeing anything that astronomically impressive in his profile, at least not anything that would inherently allow him to skill stomp Zoro given that he's achieved similar feats.
The term "incomparable." is utterly meaningless here, so I don't know why you highlighted it to make it...
I literally ******* can. It's in his profile, now stop your own agenda because at this point you aren't even using what's literally accepted on the profile. I'm the one who made his intelligence section, so yes I can in fact prove it.
, Analytical Prediction (Through sensing the breath of...
"Nobody in OP has the skills to mess with even a casual Cid."
Yeah I find that very hard to believe especially since you aren't even backing it up.
I can already tell Cid's one of those wanked jap novel characters like Ikki. I.E no actual skill, instead it's just a bunch of random shit like...
All the feats are in the profiles in the intelligence.
Not what I was saying. Mike Tyson would still beat the shit out of Rick from Rick and Morty in hand to hand even with his strategies. It's skill but not 1:1 with actual showings of skill like in Baki or Kengan.
His intelligence is full of...
I also assumed OP goons had the hindsight to update the intelligence sections for the rest of the verse like I did with Zoro.
Honestly you could just read Zoro's skill section, Jinbe, Sanji and Luffy all have comparable combat skill. But ye, I assumed his intelligence section had everything...
Zoro's feats, statements and scaling slams Sasuke's own swordsmanship feats.
Not really, Rick is a poor fighter that relies on strategy. You can have all the strategies you want, doesn't necessarily make you skill in hand to hand combat.
Again, Zoro's are all in his profile. I don't need to...
Again this argument doesnt work. It's not a no limits fallacy whenever that statement is only applicable to the swordsmen we've seen thus far in the series for Hacchan to compare to. The statement is in reference to his advantage of being a fish-man that allows him to wield swords more...
Naruto and Sasuke are absolutely not more skilled than Luffy and Zoro. Perhaps in terms of strategy, but outside of that Zoro himself would blow away Sasuke in terms of skill and swordsmanship. Also Zoro and Luffy both have feats of instantly creating complex strategies after seeing an opponents...
I actually agree with Gintoki being more skilled than this Zoro but not because of the reasons above. **** the aliens with hundreds of years of experience (this isn't a big or impressive skill feat as simply having more experience hardly means anything in cases like this.) but more so because he...
Uh no, he definitely has better skill but since this is essentially BoS Zoro he likely won't be skill stomping. He should however hold the skill advantage when comparing feats to Ruby's.
Ah so whenever it's not a shitty Jap LN it's a fodder statement lol. It's no different than what your using for Cid bud.
Goken is the zenith for swordman. It's the highest level of swordsmanship one can obtain, Mihawk's usage of Goken is simply more advanced than Zoro's. They've both reached...
ShiShi-Sonson but the speed boosts from both should be irrelevant since Ruby can avoid Zoro's with her own speed boost and Zoro can react to her blitz attemps via Analytical Prediction.
Skill probably isn't that big of a factor here anyway tbh, hate whenever the ******* thread turns into 6...
Simple.
Lucci skill scales vastly above early Zoro, who at this point has skill feats that horrendously out-do anything from MHA.
Lucci should take this for King's reasons.
No that Analogy fails big time because Cap was the one who directly overpowered Tasky's copying via sheer skill and creative thinking. Ruby never fought Velvet and I'm pretty sure Velvet was never skill stomped by anyone while she was copying their movements.
No. Nobody in RWBY has Analytical...
Also I have doubts Akame can even land a single hit on Zoro without him dodging or parrying her sword. Kenbunshoku + 2 layers of Analytical Prediction + 2 layers of Information Analysis, along side his vast skill advantage should give Zoro the win here. Zoro has a pretty good resistance to...
If I hadn't made it clear I'm voting Zoro.
His Information Analysis (which he has 2 of.) and his layered Extrasensory Perception should alert him that ending the battle quickly would be his best choice (something he already does in character.), and after damaging her a few times and seeing her...
Reminder that East Blue Zoro has feats of directly out maneuvering and overpowering Cephalopod I.R which is leagues above baseline IR.
This Luffy should be vastly above East Blue Zoro's level of skill.
I'll count the votes later but I'm voting Zoro via having an immense skill advantage, Busoshoku Haki to stop Akame from even cutting him, and having much more impressive analytical prediction and Precognition via Kenbunshoku.
That never happened, I remember that same exact thread. And it turned to shit after conceptual Skill was brought up as per fate threads.
Again, you either have a lack of context or know nothing considering Musashi and Fate are known for infamous skill wank.
Also Zoro vs Kaku was a battle of Predictions, Zoro could predict Kaku's shit but the same is true vice versa.
Also at this point this is a Zoro who has 1-2 layers of Analytical Prediction. One is from his Goken style swordsmanship and the other one is full one mental imagary based...
That's Monkey, he isn't the best debater around.
I'd say OP characters deserve a spot here somewhere, take a look at Zoro's intelligence section for example, all of his feats are listed there. Sanji is pretty relative to Zoro in terms of combat skill seeing as how they often fight against one...