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Chapter is out. Current Moro is absolutely 3-A. Gohan stated he and UIO Goku were on par in strength (but Goku was faster) and that was before he powered up.
Goku wasn't in his base form against Saganbo. He was usuing Ultra Instinct Omen in bursts. When SSB Goku fought Saganbo, Moro told Goku to use the form he used to blitz Saganbo or he'd keep powering him up. Goku goes UIO in response.
In Doomsday Clock #12 this is said. Considering Thor is mentioned and an event called "Secret Crisis" (Secret being a term used in many Marvel events and Crisis with DC), the "green behemoth" is very likely referring to the Hulk. I don't know if this means anything but it is interesting Dr...
Some one brought this up in a different thread so sorry for the necro but why is Zeraora considered 4-B for fighting Guzzlord but not Ash's Pikachu for also fighting Guzzlord and seeming to be comparable to Zeraora, as well as beating Tapu Koko (who is listed as 4-B as well? The SuMo anime also...
I don't have scans or anything. But I've read the newest issue and Perpetua destroys a universe. However, she says she needs time to recharge afterwards and also said she had all but a fragment of her power, so she should be close to full strength. Would this be regarded as an outlier?
So Dark Phoenix Jean Grey was 5-B for scaling the the Phoenix Force. Not sure how strong Vok was. Once she absorbed part of the Phoenix Force she stomped the X-Men and Magneto, which would make her at least 7-C or 6-C (not sure which). She doesn't scale to Jean though since unlike her she died...
Now the KOTM has come out, obviously, some things with Godzilla's profile will need to be changed. A key for Burning Godzilla should be added. He easily overwhelmed Ghidorah, who was stronger than Godzilla initially until Godzilla got revived, and even then Ghidorah powered himself up by eating...
So Movie Sonic seems to be easily Supersonic at the least (Pedometer showed him at just under the speed of sound, created a sonic boom, missiles seemed to not even move in comparison to him) and Tier 9 in strength I think (spindashing Robotnik's car, causing it to launch into the air). Also he's...
I'm pretty sure a direct translation of that scan showed that Beerus was talking about MUI Goku when he claimed Goku may have surpassed him. Beerus directly mentioned Goku having silver hair, I think. I'll have to find it tomorrow since I need to get some sleep.
As this video 100% proved, Saitama is the most downplayed fictional character ever is has power beyond even his other, ONE, or artist, Murata, themselves. He is also above The One Above All, who is Tier 0, so Saitama should get his own tier above Tier 0, Tier 0+. Saitama should also have gag...
The pictures used for him aren't the best and new renders of him from Dokkan Battle came out that are of higher quality. I think these could be added to the page.
@Peter1129
I know when the statement was said. Black with the Scyther was forced to rip a hole in space-time and create clones to fend off Goku and Vegeta, never fighting them on his own and agreeing to fuse with Future Zamasu, something that would be unnecessary if he was above them. And...
Disagreed with the scaling used by Peter1129. IIRC Goku Black was only said to be the strongest non-God character by someone from Toei, not from either Toriyama or Toyotaro. The statement was said after Black was already shown being inferior to Post-RoSaT SSB Vegeta, and SSB Goku later on...
Please don't bring shit about Vic in here. He's already been fired and the investigation is done. There is no reason for either Funimation or any actresses to lie about this. And NPC is one of the most stupid insults ever.
On topic, apparently, FPSSJ Broly was not in Toriyama's script. Does...
As these two posts obviously prove, Base Goku is nowhere near Universal and in fact are below Fat Buu even in DBS:Broly. Clearly, we've been wanking DBS Characters. Base Saiyans downgraded to 4-B, God Tiers are 3-B at best. GT stomps everyone in Super. /s
Wait why are people saying SSJ is a 40x multiplier? The only official word on its multiplier is that it was 50x Base, not 40x. Power levels also put Base Goku at 3,000,000, and SSJ Goku at 150,000,000, exactly 50x stronger. They're that last official power levels besides Trunks' suppressed power...
I still haven't seen a source that Goku was suppressing himself for the entire tournament.It's already been pointed out that DBS Broly Goku considered Ribrianne as one of the stronger people from the tournament. I already pointed out that Goku was impressed with her strength, especially compared...
18 definitely got a huge boost in strength while fighting Ribrianne. She seemed weaker than Giant Ribrianne at first but then got some love boost or something and overpowered her. Honestly, I would be fine with High 4-C Base Ribrianne, 3-A Super/Giant Ribrianne (Since Super Ribrianne was strong...
r/CharacterRant is going to have a fit of these upgrades go through lol.
Since I'm not familiar with GoW I'm staying neutral on this. Just wanted to comment.
Disagreed with Dark.
Piccolo did not know about fusion yet when he mentioned Goten and Trunks. He thought they had the best chance against Buu even without factoring in fusion.
Gohan thinking Goten could surpass him at all would insinuate to me that there's not a huge gap between their...
Agreed with AKM sama. Base and SSJ Goku surviving Broly is PIS in the same way Base Freeza wasn't reduced to mush in one punch and all the other weird power inconsistencies Super has. Goku is fine where he is. Freeza is likely still 3-A in base, Low 2-C in Golden. Broly is 3-A in base, Low 2-C...
Vegeta was stronger than Goku at several points in Z, though.
1. During the Saiyan arc Goku needed Kaioken x3 to hurt him much and Vegeta still had Oozaru.
2. Post-Ginyu Vegeta got several Zenkais putting him beyond Goku (even after training) until Goku got done healing.
3. During the Android...
I'm not sure what "Goku gets a lot of power boosts" has to do with Goku and Vegeta being flat out shown to be equal twice since the tournament with no hint Goku was suppressing himself but ok. What's stopping Vegeta from having caught up to Goku since the ToP? Before UIO3 Vegeta was AHEAD of...
Back.
And I further argue, WHY exactly is Goku supposedly holding back so much against Vegeta and why is Vegeta suddenly so weak Goku can do so? With Krillin its blatantly obvious he's holding back since Krillin couldn't beat Base Goku. Goku has failed to show in series he's hundreds of time...
Nope.
SSJ Goku failed to damage Broly in the movie itself. No point in relying on the novel when it is non main continuity to my knowledge. You're ignoring the fact that God Vegeta was fully capable of blocking Rage Broly's hits himself and was never truly overpowered before Goku stepped in...
This better not end well.
Obviously disagreed. If this goes through the whole Dragon Ball scaling will be screwed here and I lot of casual visitors will be confused since I highly doubt any of them think SSJ Goku>SSG Vegeta. Obviously, I don't either. Its an absurd argument taking statements at...
Reviving this. Several from Google+
1. Base GT Goku stomps Jiren. (Justification was that the universe busting feat was an outlier and somehow GT Goku is universal+ in base).
2. Buu Saga SSJ3 Gotenks>>>BOG SSG Goku
3. Buutenks>Pre-ToP SSB Goku>Buu Saga Ultimate Gohan=ToP Ultimate Gohan
4...
I had a whole comment responding to Warren but for whatever reason I wasn't logged in so I lost it. Oops.
Anyone I disagree with the notion the current Base Goku>SSG Vegeta when nothing in the movie suggests it and the one statement out of universe about Vegeta trying to catch up was likely...