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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread
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Naeem0304
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[MCU] Stormbreaker Upgrade (Mild resistance to the Infinity Gauntlet/Stones)
Screenwriter Interview (Infinity War) For clarification, this is referencing the interview video with the screenwriters of Infinity War. The official Stormbreaker page on our wiki pledges the Russo brothers statement on Stormbreaker being the most powerful weapon, and it go without question...
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I think we moved on too fast from The Witches' Road and Billy's feat of creation that would be 4-A 
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What I don't know is whether Infinity Scarlet Witch is more powerful than Infinity Ultron or not, and if the two of them fought, who would win?
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So Captain Marvel is the strongest hero in the Sacred Timeline until Avengers: Doomsday drops?
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Would this count for a mild power stone feat?
In Thor Ragnarok, Devil's Anus is a Magnetar.
Even though the Junior Novelization is deemed "non-canon", it doesn't deny that the Devil's Anus is a Magnetar and that a teaspoon of it's atmosphere would have the mass of a hundred million tons.
And to be frank, Thanos didn't show much of if any effort or physical pain when using the power stone to blow up the Statesman + it was heavily damaged when Thanos' ship attacked it.
Makes me think if this could possibly upscale Stormbreaker cutting through the Infinity Stone beam later into the movie.
In Thor Ragnarok, Devil's Anus is a Magnetar.
Even though the Junior Novelization is deemed "non-canon", it doesn't deny that the Devil's Anus is a Magnetar and that a teaspoon of it's atmosphere would have the mass of a hundred million tons.
- According to NASA, a star's atmosphere is only four inches thick. In total, there is a 28.57 trillion difference between the star's atmosphere and its complete mass.
- 2.857 x 10^13 x 1 x 10^8 gets 2.85 sextillion tons (Multi-Stellar) in a teaspoon or roughly 57 quintillion tons per cubic centimeter.
So this KE value would be somewhere around Star-Solar System level (which is congruent with the durability of a Neutron Star).
And to be frank, Thanos didn't show much of if any effort or physical pain when using the power stone to blow up the Statesman + it was heavily damaged when Thanos' ship attacked it.
Makes me think if this could possibly upscale Stormbreaker cutting through the Infinity Stone beam later into the movie.
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Is there any problem with that? I know there were multiple tries to have Thor be put above her but that's what we have for now. And there are still movies and series before Doomsday who know maybe there is something else.
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Infinity Scarlet Witch was able to affect the Yggdrasil tree in a short time with a combination of chaos magic + the stones so she 100% has more raw power and that's irrefutable (Scarlet Witch is above Base Ultron.) However, Infinity Ultron used the stones better, he has better IQ (and Nigh-Omniscience within the Nexus of all Realities) along with equipment like Ultron Sentries, his Lance and planetoid.
Ultron has more win-cons in the bag to be honest; base stats won't matter since IU leads off with using the stones against powerful adversaries, he's used the stones a lot better and already has an entire army in his base kit.
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No not even close
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Who's above her, then?
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Thor and other gods etc
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The artbook for The Marvels has a statement from director Nia DaCosta claiming that current Captain Marvel is the most powerful being in the universe, though that would probably result in weirdly high scaling if taken at face value:
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Until a CRT is accepted that's just your opinion.
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Everybody and their grandma has a statement like that and unlike Thor she has no chance of ever scaling to celestials meaning she cooked
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Considering most of those arguments were already rejected, neither does Thor.
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Considering that’s not how it works they aren’t accepted because not enough information not because he just doesn’t scale and celestials are outright confirmed to be creation gods just like the other gods at omnipotent city meaning Thor has access to this stuff and chances to scale Carol does not sorry
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Sorry I was busy seeing Carol's profile officially at tier 4 while Thor is still in tier 5. Don't worry about that.
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Lol bro thinks everything on the profiles matters when literally for the longest time they were all tier 6 and now they are all going to be tier 5 all because of evidence that isn’t new and has been around for years only ignored that shows how little the profiles matter in terms of their actual rating
Wasn’t everyone star level at one point
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Well if the profiles don't matter why would you care to prove in this wiki that Thor is more powerful than Captain Marvel?
Also the argument that took them to tier 5 was not rejected before, your Thor 3-B was.
And now they are not and only Captain Marvel scales.
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Because I want them to accept the truth not deny the inevitable
It wasn’t rejected because he just doesn’t scale its rejected because not enough information currently other gods like khonshu already outperforms carol best feat x100 Odin did the same with a tap of his staff just wait until thor comes back and you’ll see you can only deny for so long before you have to accept the truth
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Pretty much yes.
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"I AM CAPTAIN MARVEL" snap
Pretty sure we talking about heroes not Khonshu who is more of an anti hero of not a straight up villain. And Odin is not a hero either and his feet only scales to creation not physically. To accept the truth you need an accepted CRT, so far ain't seen anything.
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Y’all see the TvA and marvel comics comic Feige himself said those are the mcu characters in those comics or no
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Apparently Secret Invasion director Ali Selim has confirmed (more than once it seems) that Skrulls are supposed to be 15 percent stronger than humans:
The Skrulls are clearly very strong, as we can see in the fight scenes. What are the physics of their abilities?
"Again, it’s just a rule that was created. The rule is that a Skrull in Skrull form or a Skrull in human form is roughly 15 percent stronger than a human. But they can’t fly or they don’t have any superpowers of any kind. They’re just 15 percent stronger."
Depending on whether this is taken as 15 percent stronger than average humans or peak humans, this could either put Skrulls at 9-A or put average level humans somewhere in 9-B.
The Skrulls are clearly very strong, as we can see in the fight scenes. What are the physics of their abilities?
"Again, it’s just a rule that was created. The rule is that a Skrull in Skrull form or a Skrull in human form is roughly 15 percent stronger than a human. But they can’t fly or they don’t have any superpowers of any kind. They’re just 15 percent stronger."
Depending on whether this is taken as 15 percent stronger than average humans or peak humans, this could either put Skrulls at 9-A or put average level humans somewhere in 9-B.
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3 more days until hulk fights the mech avengers how strong y’all think hulk will be?
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Episode 1: What If…The Hulk Fought the Mech Avengers?
Captain America/Sam Wilson must suit up in a colossal mech suit to battle Bruce Banner after an attempt to cure himself of the Hulk goes horribly wrong. Bucky Barnes, Monica Rambeau, Moon Knight, and others must join Sam as his new team of Mech Avengers.
Episode 2: What If…Agatha Went to Hollywood?
Howard Stark may have helped the Allies win World War II…but what he really wants to do is direct! On the set of Stark Pictures’ first production, the playboy auteur quickly finds himself enchanted by his bewitching lead actress, Agatha Harkness. Little does she know there will be another superpower co-star on the call sheet…Kingo.
Episode 3: What If…The Red Guardian Stopped The Winter Soldier?
It is 1991, and the Red Guardian takes it upon himself to join a high-profile mission and prove himself to his Red Room superiors. When his antics interfere with the Winter Soldier’s own mission to kill Howard Stark, the two Soviet supersoldiers must form an alliance to escape the United States.
Episode 4: What If…Howard the Duck Got Hitched?
Howard the Duck and Darcy Lewis find themselves on an intergalactic pleasure cruise. When dangerous factions from across the galaxy descend to threaten their trip, they must discover their own cosmic powers to withstand the onslaught.
Episode 5: What If…The Emergence Destroyed the Earth?
In a Universe where The Eternals never stopped The Emergence, the birth of an incubating Celestial shatters the Earth. Civilization endures on the rocky remnants of our planet, where Quentin Beck leads an authoritarian regime until freedom fighters recruit Riri Williams on a deadly mission to take him down.
Episode 6: What If…1872?
In a universe where the heroes of the MCU live in the Old West, Shang-Chi and his pistol-packing partner, Kate Bishop, traverse the frontier, saving the innocent from the evils of The Hood.
Episode 7: What If…The Watcher Disappeared?
The Watcher must stand trial for his many interventions.
Episode 8: What If…What If?
The end of the beginning…
Captain America/Sam Wilson must suit up in a colossal mech suit to battle Bruce Banner after an attempt to cure himself of the Hulk goes horribly wrong. Bucky Barnes, Monica Rambeau, Moon Knight, and others must join Sam as his new team of Mech Avengers.
Episode 2: What If…Agatha Went to Hollywood?
Howard Stark may have helped the Allies win World War II…but what he really wants to do is direct! On the set of Stark Pictures’ first production, the playboy auteur quickly finds himself enchanted by his bewitching lead actress, Agatha Harkness. Little does she know there will be another superpower co-star on the call sheet…Kingo.
Episode 3: What If…The Red Guardian Stopped The Winter Soldier?
It is 1991, and the Red Guardian takes it upon himself to join a high-profile mission and prove himself to his Red Room superiors. When his antics interfere with the Winter Soldier’s own mission to kill Howard Stark, the two Soviet supersoldiers must form an alliance to escape the United States.
Episode 4: What If…Howard the Duck Got Hitched?
Howard the Duck and Darcy Lewis find themselves on an intergalactic pleasure cruise. When dangerous factions from across the galaxy descend to threaten their trip, they must discover their own cosmic powers to withstand the onslaught.
Episode 5: What If…The Emergence Destroyed the Earth?
In a Universe where The Eternals never stopped The Emergence, the birth of an incubating Celestial shatters the Earth. Civilization endures on the rocky remnants of our planet, where Quentin Beck leads an authoritarian regime until freedom fighters recruit Riri Williams on a deadly mission to take him down.
Episode 6: What If…1872?
In a universe where the heroes of the MCU live in the Old West, Shang-Chi and his pistol-packing partner, Kate Bishop, traverse the frontier, saving the innocent from the evils of The Hood.
Episode 7: What If…The Watcher Disappeared?
The Watcher must stand trial for his many interventions.
Episode 8: What If…What If?
The end of the beginning…
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Is the Howard the Duck one a reference to the Party Thor episode?
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Most likely, Jötunn Loki appears in one of the episodes and it's probably this one since Tom Hiddleston is credited in it
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Wait, does this mean that the multiverse in mcu works with marvel comics? Because I see characters from the mcu joining more with marvel comics like TVA
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Yes they share a verse together there’s no point in trying to deny it anymore
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Should someone created CRT for this?
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Yeah but we should try to get the crt that’s already on going done with first
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How many are there now?
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Idk it’s been 48 hours why hasn’t the upgrade went through
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I'm not going to lie, but this is irrefutable evidence right here. Good job.
And the TVA comics does stuff like mention the temporal loom, Loki's sacrifice, and how the new timelines are allowed to grow beyond the singular 'Sacred Timeline'. Makes me wonder if these other timelines include the comic's universe too.
And the Space Stone's range should be amped to at least 5D/Low 1-C since Kahhori was able to enter another multiversal timeline via it's powers.
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I have a question, if the multiverse mcu and marvel comics worked together, which characters would get more upgrades than low1-c?
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