Magi General Discussion Thread

Lynieryz · Mar 3, 2024

OriginFox said:
Anyone know why acausality was removed?

Lynieryz said:
Acausality/EE/regeneration for Sinbad

After the new justification, I have a question about this. Sinbad: (Type 4; as a Singularity, Sinbad is born with a vast amount of Magoi and is capable of deviating from fate and “feel” fate. He is also halfway Fallen into Depravity) This is not Acausality type 4. Acausality (Type 4; as a...

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Valeska24 · Mar 23, 2024

Can someone send me a scan of the phrase in the speed section of the Magi Gods that indicates that it is outside and beyond the normal space time continuum?

Lynieryz · Mar 24, 2024

Valeska24 said:
Can someone send me a scan of the phrase in the speed section of the Magi Gods that indicates that it is outside and beyond the normal space time continuum?

I have no idea where this comes from; the closest I could get to an origin was this ↓↓↓

M3X_2.0 said:
Immeasurable (Outside of and beyond regular space-time continuums. Can walk in the Sacred Palace, where time does not exist)

Massive Magi revisions

Introductio Ok, I did some calculations for Magi and one was accepted, the other still needs approval. But nevertheless, I will make a proposal of revision in the profiles. Speed 2 calculations were accepted, this and that. The speed of the verse will have a major upgrade Morgiana...

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Ryuga21 · Mar 25, 2024

Any calc about Magi's planet size?

I did one myself a few years ago, but I would recommend someone recalc it using a better method (I not the same as before, busy af):

Jag50 · Apr 2, 2024

Ryuga21 said:
Any calc about Magi's planet size?

I did one myself a few years ago, but I would recommend someone recalc it using a better method (I not the same as before, busy af):

It's at least over 10x bigger than Earth via the Mother Dragon statement and the 40 year walk stuff, no?

RatherClueless · Apr 8, 2024

Please don't make calculations based on the dark continent statement. The dark continent in question and the dark continent depicted on the map are not the same. The one where it takes 40 years to travel across is completely spatially separated from the rest of the planet

Blackchocolate77 · May 12, 2024

r/f changes according to new standards, will magi be upgraded?

Lynieryz · May 12, 2024

Blackchocolate77 said:
r/f changes according to new standards, will magi be upgraded?

It is likely that it will be an upgrade, Magi meets the new standards regarding R>F, so at the very least it will become 1-A.

Jag50 · May 12, 2024

Is that general verse overhaul still in the works?

Alsotime · May 15, 2024

RatherClueless said:
Please don't make calculations based on the dark continent statement. The dark continent in question and the dark continent depicted on the map are not the same. The one where it takes 40 years to travel across is completely spatially separated from the rest of the planet

That’s not really the case though, unless I’m missing something it’s just the same dark continent from the original world copy and pasted onto the magi world, it’s still the one depicted on the magic worlds map.

Rutæhh · May 30, 2024

any of you here?

Nierre · May 30, 2024

yesn't

Jag50 · May 31, 2024

Alsotime said:
That’s not really the case though, unless I’m missing something it’s just the same dark continent from the original world copy and pasted onto the magi world, it’s still the one depicted on the magic worlds map.

Yeah I was about to say I don't recall the actual structure of the continent being any different aside from location placement.

Jag50 · Jun 2, 2024

Actually it would be more like 30x bigger. Walking around the earth takes 3 years and just the dark continent would be 40 years.

RatherClueless · Friday at 14:13

Alsotime said:
That’s not really the case though, unless I’m missing something

You are (also, I can't open the linked images). The dark continent on the map and the one from Alma Torran are very much not the same. The dark continent that they had to traverse was actually located in the old world and they are separated by the great rift.
One place is where the Fanalis look human, the other one is where they are Red Lions. They are simply both called that because, uurgh. I dunno tbqh, but it's very very explicit about this. I can get the scans later if needed.

Alsotime · Friday at 14:27

The old world and the new world are one in the same now, he brought the dark continent from the old world and literally merged it into the new one

RatherClueless · Friday at 14:49

Alsotime said:
The old world and the new world are one in the same now, he brought the dark continent from the old world and literally merged it into the new one

That combined world is very different geographically from both Alma Torran and the one Ugo made. There is no map for the combined world.

Lormac_CC · Saturday at 19:11

Someone brought my attention to this on discord. Who is very good with wiki standard

Lormac_CC · Saturday at 19:12

Blackchocolate77 said:
r/f changes according to new standards, will magi be upgraded?

Honestly, it is going to be hard for them to get upgraded

RatherClueless · Saturday at 20:05

They'll be upgraded. I can't exactly say when however, since it's out of my hands at this point. The CRT is basically done. It just needs some, um, "prettyfying", I suppose. So yeah, no need to go in the kitchen. We already cooked.

Lormac_CC · Saturday at 20:13

RatherClueless said:
They'll be upgraded. I can't exactly say when however, since it's out of my hands at this point. The CRT is basically done. It just needs some, um, "prettyfying", I suppose. So yeah, no need to go in the kitchen. We already cooked.

K

Lormac_CC · Saturday at 21:51

RatherClueless said:
however, since it's out of my hands at this point.

Who is handling Magi upgrade CRT?

Lormac_CC · Saturday at 22:03

We have to take our time to analyse any counter argument that will be brought before the CRT

RatherClueless · Sunday at 08:16

Lormac_CC said:
Who is handling Magi upgrade CRT?

~~It's mainly me~~ Deon, the guy who is best at scaling a verse he isn't allowed to scale on here, a hand full of regular users who are just kinda in the server and two staff who idk if they want their names to be dropped just yet.

Lormac_CC said:
We have to take our time to analyse any counter argument that will be brought before the CRT

That's also sth we are currently doing and trust me, we had some of the wackiest arguments you can imagine on there.

Lormac_CC · Sunday at 10:44

RatherClueless said:
Deon, the guy who is best at scaling a verse he isn't allowed to scale on here, a hand full of regular users who are just kinda in the server

I sent a request on discord

RatherClueless · Sunday at 10:45

Lormac_CC said:
I sent a request on discord

I already replied

Ped2018 · Sunday at 13:43

Hey guys, i'm planning to read Magi and i feel like i should ask, when do i start Sinbad no bouken? After i finish Magi? Or is there a specifc chapter or arc i should stop Magi, read Sinbad, and then finish Magi?

Lynieryz · Sunday at 14:13

Ped2018 said:
Hey guys, i'm planning to read Magi and i feel like i should ask, when do i start Sinbad no bouken? After i finish Magi? Or is there a specifc chapter or arc i should stop Magi, read Sinbad, and then finish Magi?

Honestly, I think you should start with Sinbad, a lot of context there improves the experience of reading Magi and a spoiler doesn't really exist there.

Besides being the correct chronological order but this isn't even that relevant.

RatherClueless · Sunday at 14:48

For the love of God, don't start with Sinbad. Sinbad no Bouken is very clearly written for an audience that already read Magi. It also spoils A LOT! Like, whole plot twists you aren't aware of until chapter 300ish. Finish Magi and then read Sinbad.

Lynieryz · Sunday at 15:42

RatherClueless said:
For the love of God, don't start with Sinbad. Sinbad no Bouken is very clearly written for an audience that already read Magi. It also spoils A LOT! Like, whole plot twists you aren't aware of until chapter 300ish. Finish Magi and then read Sinbad.

What Spoiler? None of the "spoilers" are relevant, and you lose a lot of context that improves the quality of your reading.

RatherClueless · Sunday at 15:54

Lynieryz said:
What Spoiler? None of the "spoilers" are relevant, and you lose a lot of context that improves the quality of your reading.

I don't wanna get into the nitty gritty here due to spoilers, so I'll just say this much.
I genuinely think that knowing Sinbad's backstory makes him less enjoyable in the main story (tho that's very subjective). It also removes an insane amount of tension.
The last arc of SnB is a massive spoiler. No two ways about it. Shinobu even lied about the events in Magi as to not spoiler it for SnB, which in and of itself should tell you in what order it should be read. To be more specific, I'm talking about why Sinbad is half fallen. You might get away
with reading SnB up to the last arc, but definitely not the last arc itself. Heck, the end of the last arc ends at the start of the Balbadd arc (which is also majorly spoiled by revealing Alibaba's background and relationship with Kassim) and not the beginning of Magi, so it's not even properly chronological.

Edit: I think the only saving grace of reading SnB first is that it would make the pirate arc far more bearable, as Madaura would be a more interesting character. However, as much as I hate that arc, it's just not worth the tradeoffs. Also, you just straight up aren't supposed to know a lot of the context that SnB gives.
Telling someone to read it before Magi because of that is like telling people to read books backwards, since the conclusion will help them understand the setup.

Jag50 · Sunday at 16:35

RatherClueless said:
~~It's mainly me~~ Deon, the guy who is best at scaling a verse he isn't allowed to scale on here, a hand full of regular users who are just kinda in the server and two staff who idk if they want their names to be dropped just yet.

That's also sth we are currently doing and trust me, we had some of the wackiest arguments you can imagine on there.

Is this a general verse overhaul for most of the relevant characters?

Lynieryz · Sunday at 16:37

RatherClueless said:
I genuinely think that knowing Sinbad's backstory makes him less enjoyable in the main story (tho that's very subjective). It also removes an insane amount of tension.

The effect is the complete opposite, knowing about Sinbad makes you have much more tension with everything that involves him in the main story, mainly because the main story fails to really give importance to Sinbad even as it constantly tries to give importance to him and the final arc goes to another level when you already have Sinbad's entire story.

RatherClueless said:
The last arc of SnB is a massive spoiler. No two ways about it. Shinobu even lied about the events in Magi as to not spoiler it for SnB, which in and of itself should tell you in what order it should be read. To be more specific, I'm talking about why Sinbad is half fallen. You might get away
with reading SnB up to the last arc, but definitely not the last arc itself.

This "spoiler" is not even a spoiler because it is a complement to something that was not explained in the work and this improves the final arc because with this explanation you don't get the feeling that the plot has changed from what it was suddenly.

RatherClueless said:
Heck, the end of the last arc ends at the start of the Balbadd arc (which is also majorly spoiled by revealing Alibaba's background and relationship with Kassim) and not the beginning of Magi, so it's not even properly chronological.

I admit that this takes away some of the suspense of this plot, but in return it greatly increases Alibaba's development because literally all of his actions are resignified and instigates you much more.

RatherClueless · Sunday at 17:14

Jag50 said:
Is this a general verse overhaul for most of the relevant characters?

The first part will be a cosmology overhaul affecting a hand full of characters. The general overhaul will come after.

RatherClueless · Sunday at 17:21

Lynieryz said:
The effect is the complete opposite, knowing about Sinbad makes you have much more tension with everything that involves him in the main story, mainly because the main story fails to really give importance to Sinbad even as it constantly tries to give importance to him and the final arc goes to another level when you already have Sinbad's entire story.

This "spoiler" is not even a spoiler because it is a complement to something that was not explained in the work and this improves the final arc because with this explanation you don't get the feeling that the plot has changed from what it was suddenly.

I admit that this takes away some of the suspense of this plot, but in return it greatly increases Alibaba's development because literally all of his actions are resignified and instigates you much more.

Like I said, I could make a hard deep dive into this, but I won't since it'll just be spoilers upon spoilers (and I really gotta finish studying), so I'll leave it at what I already said.

Nierre · Monday at 09:51

Ped2018 said:
Hey guys, i'm planning to read Magi and i feel like i should ask, when do i start Sinbad no bouken? After i finish Magi? Or is there a specifc chapter or arc i should stop Magi, read Sinbad, and then finish Magi?

read sinbad then read magi

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