Massive Magi revisions

[M3X_2.0]

Introductio

Ok, I did some calculations for Magi and one was accepted, the other still needs approval. But nevertheless, I will make a proposal of revision in the profiles.

Speed
2 calculations were accepted, this and that. The speed of the verse will have a major upgrade

Morgiana

Sub-Relativistic+ (Saved Aladdin from Judar's lightning, should be faster than magicians like Titus who can react to light speed attacks) | Sub-Relativistic+ (Faster than base) | Sub-Relativistic+ (One of the fastest character in the series)

We can change this to: Relativistic (Much faster than characters like Titus and Yamuraiha) | Relativistic (Faster than before) | At least Relativistic (Much faster than before. Was constantly invisible to Arba because of his speed)

There is no reason to have a Mach 800-900 calculation in the justification being that it well beyond. I also do not know why they did not justify her speed on the third key with the listed feats.

Sinbad should have 3 keys in his profile, which are as follows; Base, Djinn Equip and Guardian of the Sacred Palace.

Sinbad

Sub-Relativistic+ (Must be comparable to Titus and Aladdin. Intercepted a shot from a lightning gu) | At least Relativistic (Much faster than before with any Djinn Equip. Faster than Yamuraiha) | Immeasurable (Outside of and beyond regular space-time continuums. Can walk in the Sacred Palace, where time does not exist)

Btw, all characters that are listed as Sub-Relativistic+ must be updated to relativistic

AP
We will have to remove the Country level from all the profiles that have it, the calculatio presents a result far beyond the later calculations.

 

[M3X_2.0]

There are quotes from Djinn users that could destroy a Country. And I do not think it's a hyperbole, Sinbad did almost the same thing with Sindria

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X/Sinbad_destroys_a_mountain_(Last_Feat)_-_Magi

 

[M3X_2.0]

bump

 

[-BANLK-]

Kouen Re

I do not know why he scale to Sinbad. It was explicit that Sinbad is superior to him and yet Kouen admits that he is superior.

All other Djinn users can be scaled to Alibaba for this.

All djinn users are roughly comparable to each other, Sinbad is stated to be superior to Kouen only because he has a higher number of djinns and his overall mastery over them.

 

[-BANLK-]

I think we should keep all the magis and djinn users at High 6-C (Based on Sinbad's mountain busting feat). Also Sinbad, Ugo, David, Solomon, Gods and likely Il Ilah should have higher dimensional existence.

 

[M3X_2.0]

I do not think everyone should scale from Sinbad. Aladdin has been in the presence of several users of Djinn and still said that Sinbad has more magoi than everyone in the world. In addition to all of Magoi's control of him, Sinbad manages to inflict internal damage with blows with magoi. He is far beyond the others

 

[-BANLK-]

Having more magoi just means that Sinbad can spam his attacks more frequently than other djinn users, it is more like a stamina thing and does not relate to his AP at all. It is also the reason why magis are so overpowered, they have access to a limitless supply of the world's magoi which means that they can easily spam extreme magic level attacks.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Not really. Sinbad having more Magoi and one of the best magoi controls, can easily do more damage and have a higher AP than Kouen or any other Djinn user. Proof of this was the arrival of Sinbad attacking Medium. Where everyone could no longer deal damage to him.

 

[-BANLK-]

Not really, plenty of djinn users did harm Medium like Sinbad, even then Sinbad's attack did not really do much to the Medium. Alibaba and Hakuryuu also have good magoi control and there is no statement which says that Sinbad has the best magoi control.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

Most of these revisions seem fine, but I am not sure about immeasurable speed. We do not scale it from mere higher-dimensional stature.

In additiom, I also think that most djinn users have comparable raw power, but differ in skill and versatility.

 

[M3X_2.0]

I just recycled what was already in his profile, I just put the part of him walking where time is nonexistent

 

[M3X_2.0]

btw, I will then apply the other changes. Are they obvious and do not need much more support for this, or need it?

 

[Antvasima]

We should preferably wait for more input.

 

[-BANLK-]

Most of these revisions seem fine, but I am not sure about immeasurable speed. We do not scale it from mere higher-dimensional stature.

Well from Sinbad/Ugo/David's perspective the magi world is just fiction. And for these guys time flows differently in the Sacred Palace.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, they should be able to move through time via speed alone in order to qualify. Unknown speed ratings would probably be more appropriate.

 

[-BANLK-]

Fair enough.

 

[Antvasima]

Which Magi characters are currently listed with immeasurable speed?

 

[-BANLK-]

Solomon Jehoahaz Abraham, Ugo, David Jehoahaz Abraham, Sinbad.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will adjust them.

 

[M3X_2.0]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

Haven't a few more Magi speed calculations been accepted by the calc group now? That might lead to upgrades.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Yes, they were. I already added them in the thread and changed all the proposed stats

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I think that it should be fine to update the pages then.

 

[M3X_2.0]

I think it is better to wait for another calculation to be approved. It is the calculation with the highest result, and maybe we can update the velocity to Relativistic+

Hakuryuu's were calculated to have 49% of the speed of light. And Alibaba can cut them and react to them very close

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. If necessary, you can message a few calc group members about checking it up.

 

[Elizhaa]

The speed upgrade looks fine. Removing the Country level would be fine as well

 

[M3X_2.0]

Oh god thank u

 

[Elizhaa]

Happy to help!

 

[-BANLK-]

So High 6-C for all the magis and djinn users and relativistic+ for everyone (Since base Sinbad reacted to light).

 

[M3X_2.0]

They will stay as Relativistic+ because Hakuryuu's roots have speed quite close to this and characters like Alibaba can react to them and deflect from various Hakuryuu attacks, btw Base Sinbad and the other seven generals shoud be sub-rel+, likely all other base characters and possibly Rel because Yamu's speeds feats

 

[M3X_2.0]

What do you think? All Djinn users in the base form as Sub-Rel+ and possibly Rel? With Djinn most stay as Rel+

 

[-BANLK-]

I don't think "Sub-Rel+, possibly Rel" is needed since Yamu is a weak character physically and if she has a rel feat then it scales to plenty of characters. Also doesn't base Sinbad already have a rel speed feat?

 

[M3X_2.0]

It is sub-rel, i've forgot this. 3.8%c

 

[-BANLK-]

On another note, in fiction weak does not always equate to slow, so I guess "Sub-Rel+, possibly Rel" seems fine for base djinn users and other characters.

 

[M3X_2.0]

• Magicians: Relativistic
• Base Djinn User: At Least Sub-Relativistic+, likely Relativistic
• Djinn Equip: Relativistic+
• Fanalis: Relativistic+, Morgiana: At least Relativistic+

Relativistic from this calc

Sub-Relativistic+ from this calc

Relativistic+ from this: Alibaba can dodge Hakuryuu's roots at point blank range, wich means he has Rel+ speeds

 

[-BANLK-]

I agree with this.

 

[Antvasima]

That seems fine, yes.

 

[M3X_2.0]

All franchise profiles will have to be opened to make these changes.

 

[M3X_2.0]

I would like to help make the edits, since I have done almost all the calculations necessary for this revision