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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

In other words, Zeno with his EE caused all the HTCs in her Universe 7, each of which is spread over several Universes.
I've had similar thoughts in the past. HTCs being gateways to dead universes would be really cool. If that turned out to be the case then there should be at least 6 HTCs that exist. One for each erased universe. And possibly doorways to the other existing universes.

Likely not coming anytime soon. It's an upcoming revision from Ultima, only it's one he's mentioned planning since quite a while ago, so it's likely on the backseat of his future revisions considering his current plans.
That's a slight shame but I waited like 2 years for the Elder Scrolls cosmology blog to be released so I can be patient.
 
I've had similar thoughts in the past. HTCs being gateways to dead universes would be really cool. If that turned out to be the case then there should be at least 6 HTCs that exist. One for each erased universe. And possibly doorways to the other existing universes.


That's a slight shame but I waited like 2 years for the Elder Scrolls cosmology blog to be released so I can be patient.
It might come soon, who knows
 
The episode he falls off of Snake Way.

EDIT: Episode Title is Global Training. He eats it in the trip to Snake Way, which just means that characters who nebulously scale in that range should be increased to double his Raditz fight strength if they don’t already scale to Raditz.
 
Yeah, I recall seeing this and talking about it with friends. I don't know Japanese so I can only show the original text and ChatGPT translation.

Original
界王神も破壊神も優秀ため、他の宇宙に比べ苦労が少ない。2人をさらに上の存在へと押し上げようと考えている
ChatGPT translation
The Supreme Kai and the God of Destruction are both so excellent that they have fewer difficulties compared to other universes. They are thinking of elevating the two to an even higher existence.

It seems vague what it actually means by elevating to an 'even higher existence'. I would interpret it as some sort of higher position in the cosmic hierarchy but we have no concept of a position between GoD/Supreme Kai and Angel in the franchise. A more knowledgeable person could probably deduce the nuance in the original text.
 
that him suppressed was twice as strong as Third Form Frieza
How is that an unreasonable "assumption"?
 
How is that an unreasonable "assumption"?
I didn't mean it as an "unreasonable assumption" that it was impossible, any multiplier can fit in the context just fine whether it be 2x or even a billion, I just didn't think we should take a statement about overall form multiplier and apply that to the context of a character's suppressed power in their next form. Though with these instances would could say the jump from Third Form to suppressed Final Form was larger than any previous power up Frieza had based on how it's touted and presented
Could the narrowed Final Flash destroying a far-out celestial body be calculated in any capacity?
I know it's a pipe dream, but I'd like to be able to apply that—an extension of this panel from the original series—towards the scaling chain.
Y'know, so Frieza's calculation has a friend.
You can, you can say each pixel is larger than the whole structure of the celestial body since it is just THAT small in the distance and calc the explosion size based off that.
But the issue is "what kind of a celestial body is it"? since it can range from asteroids/comets to even stars/nebulas/galaxies
 
Thinking I might merge my Frieza and Cell upgrades into a single thread since they both affect the scaling chain majorly.
Could throw in the Tien and Ultra Divine Water Goku stuff as well.
I wouldn't include two or three different equally important topics in a thread. Could complicate the discussion for it.
 
You can, you can say each pixel is larger than the whole structure of the celestial body since it is just THAT small in the distance and calc the explosion size based off that.
I was thinking inverse square law, like the Cell calculation.
But the issue is "what kind of a celestial body is it"? since it can range from asteroids/comets to even stars/nebulas/galaxies
Guess we could calculate all of them and choose the most reasonable end?
 
Real talk I've had a question in mind and sb already mentioned it b4 me if magically the 5D smurf Hax gets accepted would that change Jiren's tier for breaking time cage with his strength?
And would it affect the higher tiers in db?
 
I'm not sure how to do something like that but it could work
I don't even know if I'm using this formula correctly, but I plugged in the distance to the next planet over, Mars, (i.e., the beam length) divided by half for the "explosion radius", and got about 4.38229305e+42 joules, but I'm 99% certain that's 100% wrong. And, also, like lower than what Super Vegeta currently scales to so...
 
I wouldn't include two or three different equally important topics in a thread. Could complicate the discussion for it.
Probably'll do five back-to-back threads, then.

First, Frieza—the easiest. Then, Cell. Next, arguing for a 2x multiplier for Four Witches Techniques for Tien. Finally, Post-Ultra Divine Water Goku being 10x stronger than before. Then, depending on which threads are accepted, I can wrap it all up with a scaling chain adjustment.
 
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