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I'll add you and JohnConquest1 as well.
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MASSIVE Tekken Downgrades
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Wouldn't Violent Fragmentation be more accurate instead of regular Fragmentation?
Violent Fragmentation = 69 J/cc.
Energy = 4.71409673e17*69 = 7.77422999 Gigatons (Island level)
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What about @SamanPatou ?
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Saman hasn't said whether or not he supports 6-C Tekken downgrades yet to my knowledge.
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I already have that in the calculation linked in the OP
Jack 6 Destroys a Meteor
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K so now I suppose we should discuss whether we should go with 7-A+ (901.357 Megatons) or 6-C (7.774 Gigatons)
I've already explained my reasoning for why I think it's violent Fragmentation in a previous comment so I am for 6-C
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Violent fragmentation makes the most sense to me as well.
I support 6-C.
I support 6-C.
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Yup, 6-C seems the most reasonable to me as well.
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I agree with 6-C
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It's not much about who agrees and who doesn't, that's the founding calc.
Instead, I'd say we need @DemonGodMitchAubin to give his opinions on whether or not using v.frags as some are arguing.
Instead, I'd say we need @DemonGodMitchAubin to give his opinions on whether or not using v.frags as some are arguing.
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DemonGod is active on the site but he won't respond for some reason.
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Hey buddy relax, people got real lives and don’t have time to drop everything they’re doing to come to your thread. He could just have vsbw open in another tab, like my brother in Christ not everyone is terminally online. Gahlee man vsbw isn’t everyone’s number 1 priority
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You didn't have to call him out like thatHey buddy relax, people got real lives and don’t have time to drop everything they’re doing to come to your thread. He could just have vsbw open in another tab, like my brother in Christ not everyone is terminally online. Gahlee man vsbw isn’t everyone’s number 1 priority
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You're being pretty dramatic here dude.Hey buddy relax, people got real lives and don’t have time to drop everything they’re doing to come to your thread. He could just have vsbw open in another tab, like my brother in Christ not everyone is terminally online. Gahlee man vsbw isn’t everyone’s number 1 priority
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@CloverDragon03 already evaluated and accepted the new calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DemonGodMitchAubin/Tekken:_Jack-6_stops_meteorEverybody please calm down so this situation does not deteriorate further.
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Thank you for the information.
The accepted calculation result can probably be used/applied then, if @SamanPatou thinks that it is acceptable to do so.
The accepted calculation result can probably be used/applied then, if @SamanPatou thinks that it is acceptable to do so.
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The issue about frag and v.frag is still pending, tho.
@CloverDragon03 could you help us again and tell us which option would you go for? Thank you.
@CloverDragon03 could you help us again and tell us which option would you go for? Thank you.
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Does it matter if he thinks KE should be used?
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It’s true though that people have lives and VSBW is definitely not always the top priority
This is 100% fragmentation, looking at the feat
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Alright.
How small do the fragments have to be to count at violent fragmentation?
Your answer would clear this whole thing up.
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I'd say yes, because Armor vouched against it, and Mitch preferred to split the final rating, so I think it's best to keep both ends on the profiles.
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At least Mountain level+, likely Island level+ makes sense for Jack-6 and everyone who scales to him then.
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Ah ok, makes sense
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Typically they should be pretty small pieces. The asteroid was broken up into noticeably large chunks, hence why it should be fragmentation
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Do you mean pebble sized?
An example would be what happened to Gokuento after Akuma punched it:
At the very end of Ryu's ending we see pebble sized chunks of the island fall into the water.
Would that count as violent fragmentation?
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Chunks of that size should probably be fine for violent fragmentation
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Okay.
So pebble sized chunks are required for violent frag and chunks that are noticeably larger than pebble sized count as regular frag.
Gotcha.
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Also, since this would only scale to those who can one-shot Jack 6, then what rating would the high and mid tiers get?
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I mentioned this earlier in the thread.
They would have to get 8-B from Feng Wei's boulder feat.
There are probably better feats to scale them with (Feng Wei's mountain bust for example) but they haven't been calced yet so 8-B for all mid and/or high tiers for the time being.
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8-B? I thought you brought up Jack’s Low 7-B feat.
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I brought that one up in relation to the top tiers in my original post.
Scaling the mid and/or high tiers to Gun Jack's force-field durability feels pretty wonky in my opinion but top tiers like Akuma and Kazuya can tank the satellite laser so they get Tier 7 scaling no problem.
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Ah, but Gun Jack would still get 8-B, Low 7-B with force fields for his durability right?
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Yes.
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