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MASSIVE Tekken Downgrades

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You aint doing any scaling changes here, you aint putting anyone at 8-B nor low 7-C

Only thing agreed was the change from that feat and only that, you aint touching shit period
 
Dunno why you even remotely are here to begin, you did absolutely nothing for any of the stuff

His reasons are garbage and nothing else was agreed besides on Jack, we aint doing power scaling tiering of the verse
 
Yeah at this moment we should focus only on the meteor feat and changing the ratings of the top tiers accordingly (Their low ends anyway, don't think we're touching the possibly High 6-A stuff)

What was it recaled to again? Island level or something right?
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
You aint doing any scaling changes here, you aint putting anyone at 8-B nor low 7-C

Only thing agreed was the change from that feat and only that, you aint touching shit period
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No one said anything about scaling changes dude.

I was simply answering a question that RanaProGamer asked earlier.
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
Dunno why you even remotely are here to begin, you did absolutely nothing for any of the stuff

His reasons are garbage and nothing else was agreed besides on Jack, we aint doing power scaling tiering of the verse
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At this point make a Rule Violations on Darkness
 
CloverDragon03 said:
This is 100% fragmentation, looking at the feat
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CloverDragon03 said:
Typically they should be pretty small pieces. The asteroid was broken up into noticeably large chunks, hence why it should be fragmentation
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The large chunks that the asteroid was broken into is akin to dust compared to the 6 mile wide meteor an we literally see it explode into these Jack-6 sized chunks


V. Frag at the least should be used

If we take a rock that you can violently fragment and scale it up to the size of this meteor and preform the same feat the chunks are gonna be bigger. What matters is it's size in comparison to the object

I'm still for V.Frag

Also for Jack stopping the KE? IDN it was still moving towards the screen when he was punching it

And in classic VS battles fashion the Moderator gets his calc evaluated the very day it was made while the one this literal ******* thread is about gathers dust for half a month
 
Hellbeast said:
At this point make a Rule Violations on Darkness
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One happened before, Darkness was using the same behavior (if not worse) and wasn't even warned. I don't think anyone gives enough ***** to make another. It's just a waste of time.
 
So what have our staff members here agreed with applying?
 
Antvasima said:
So what have our staff members here agreed with applying?
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Jack-6's meteor feat has been recalced at 7-A to 6-C and the calc was evaluated and accepted so his profile should be revised to reflect that change: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Jack_(Tekken)

JohnConquest1 agreed with the downgrade (he also agreed with all of the other downgrades but that's a different matter) and SamanPatou is agnostic on it.

What do you think?
 
Has anybody created a thread in our calc group forum to ask our calc group members regarding which version of the calculations for the feat that they prefer? That is required if several calculations for the same feat(s) have been accepted.
 
Antvasima said:
Has anybody created a thread in our calc group forum to ask our calc group members regarding which version of the calculations for the feat that they prefer? That is required if several calculations for the same feat(s) have been accepted.
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DemonGod's version of the calc is the only one that has been evaluated and accepted.
 
Continuum19 said:
SamanPatou is agnostic on it.
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I'm in favor of it, since as of now their tier scales only to the outdated calc.

For the time being we can just replace the old tier with the new one, while keeping the 10x multiplier, as it has yet to be discussed properly and it's already on files, and touch the rest.

Then we'll see in the future with BlackDarkness's revisions and anything else that will come.
 
SamanPatou said:
I'm in favor of it, since as of now their tier scales only to the outdated calc.

For the time being we can just replace the old tier with the new one, while keeping the 10x multiplier, as it has yet to be discussed properly and it's already on files, and touch the rest.

Then we'll see in the future with BlackDarkness's revisions and anything else that will come.
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So which characters are you revising specifically?
 
Continuum19 said:
DemonGod's version of the calc is the only one that has been evaluated and accepted.
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SamanPatou said:
I'm in favor of it, since as of now their tier scales only to the outdated calc.

For the time being we can just replace the old tier with the new one, while keeping the 10x multiplier, as it has yet to be discussed properly and it's already on files, and touch the rest.

Then we'll see in the future with BlackDarkness's revisions and anything else that will come.
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Thank you for the replies. 🙏🙏🙏

It seems like we have reached some conclusions here then.
 
SamanPatou said:
Everyone who's currently 6-B, just replace it with the new ratings, and slap the 10x rating after it on the files which use the multiplier for devil and super forms.
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So just to be clear Akuma, Alisa, Anna, Bryan, Eliza, Feng Wei, Jack, Kazumi, Kuma, Lee, Marshall, Master Raven, Nina, Ogre, Panda, Paul, Yoshimitsu, Heihachi, Kazuya, Jin, Jinpachi, Lars and Raven would all get "At least Mountain level+, likely Island level" for their AP, striking strength and durability ratings?

They also get also get their tiers changed to "7-A likely 6-C" correct?
 
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That should be the case yeah, and then anyone with the 10× multiplier would get an additional "At least Island level, likely Island level+" for their respective super forms or devil forms or whatever.
 
Shmeatywerbenmanjenson said:
The large chunks that the asteroid was broken into is akin to dust compared to the 6 mile wide meteor an we literally see it explode into these Jack-6 sized chunks


V. Frag at the least should be used

If we take a rock that you can violently fragment and scale it up to the size of this meteor and preform the same feat the chunks are gonna be bigger. What matters is it's size in comparison to the object

I'm still for V.Frag
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This doesn’t matter. As far as I can tell, the chunks themselves are big ones, making this fragmentation. The video shows them to be pretty big even as the meteor is breaking. It’s that simple
Shmeatywerbenmanjenson said:
And in classic VS battles fashion the Moderator gets his calc evaluated the very day it was made while the one this literal ******* thread is about gathers dust for half a month
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I just evaluated what I was asked to evaluate, unless you would’ve preferred that I let that calc also gather dust
 
Island level+ is only for the characters that get a 10x boost in their transformed state like Saman said earlier. It's agreed to use both ends of the meteor calc and put it as At least Mountain level+ (901 Megatons), likely/possibly Island level (6.8 Gigatons), so people like Devil Kazuya would end up being 9.01 Gigatons to 68 Gigatons, latter being Island level+.
 
Dust_Collector said:
Island level+ is only for the characters that get a 10x boost in their transformed state like Saman said earlier. It's agreed to use both ends of the meteor calc and put it as At least Mountain level+ (901 Megatons), likely/possibly Island level (6.8 Gigatons), so people like Devil Kazuya would end up being 9.01 Gigatons to 68 Gigatons, latter being Island level+.
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Okay that's good
 
Super/True Devil Kazuya
Super/True Devil Jin
Ascended Heihachi
Shin Akuma

Multiplier doesnt apply to Devil Kazuya and Devil Jin, its specifically pointed the the Super/True forms get that kind of power increase
 
Dust_Collector said:
Island level+ is only for the characters that get a 10x boost in their transformed state like Saman said earlier. It's agreed to use both ends of the meteor calc and put it as At least Mountain level+ (901 Megatons), likely/possibly Island level (6.8 Gigatons), so people like Devil Kazuya would end up being 9.01 Gigatons to 68 Gigatons, latter being Island level+.
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Yea this sounds good
 
CloverDragon03 said:
This doesn’t matter. As far as I can tell, the chunks themselves are big ones, making this fragmentation. The video shows them to be pretty big even as the meteor is breaking. It’s that simple
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Whatever, its fine either way. We still get 6-C for a high end
CloverDragon03 said:
I just evaluated what I was asked to evaluate, unless you would’ve preferred that I let that calc also gather dust
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Could you not just have evaluated both calcs? I mean I'm no expert but these seem like very easy calcs to verify

Doesn't seem like it would take half a month to make a decision on
 
Shmeatywerbenmanjenson said:
Whatever, its fine either way. We still get 6-C for a high end

Could you not just have evaluated both calcs? I mean I'm no expert but these seem like very easy calcs to verify

Doesn't seem like it would take half a month to make a decision on
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What other calc was there? I was only ever given the one. Also, I don’t live on the wiki, especially not when I’m overseas with family. I didn’t know there was another calc until just now, so naturally it wasn’t getting evaluated
 
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