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CloverDragon03

CloverDragon03

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    ShadowSythez
    Hey. Recently I made a thread on the speed calculations on the 'attack on titan' page. I got sent by KLOL and was wondering if you could drop your input, would be much appreciated.
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    Not sure what your current stance on this calc is, but here is what @Psychomaster35 says:

    If it was an energy based attack that you would deflect, then it would be viable for you to scale to that energy blast’s AP. But a physical object before it explodes? Definitely not, so you would need to calculate the weight of the bomb before getting the KE of yourself deflecting it.
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    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    Okay I'm gonna put a moratorium on this now because you've messaged me like 5 different times about it now: I don't care about the calc anymore. I think Goku scales to it, but for different reasons. Cool? Cool.
    FantaRin_The_First
    Hey, hey, fanta here. Welp, I made a cloud calc in this userblog, Clover. I promise ya, it is only one calc and no bonus or extra calcs attached to it. Very simple and whatnot. I also have to redo some old cloud calcs since they were made prior to the cloud mass calculator but from my own rough calcs, the results barely change from it so no rush, lol. Hope that isn't a bother, Clover. xD.
    pineappleman
    Hello Clover, please reopen this thread that you've closed. https://vsbattles.com/threads/dbs-goku-hax-revision.156802/
    I was midway through writing a response when it was speed-closed, no time was given for argument. Damage claimed that it was okay since the thread was 48 hours long, but the arguments he had made are not even 12 hours old. I can assure you that nothing has been 'debunked', there is still room for discussion.
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    I didn't close it, I don't have that authority. Talk to Damage about that, he's the one that closed it. Also, the 48 hours thing depends on how old the thread is from its first post.

    And lastly I really don't see what discussion there is to be had. There's no Regeneration or Resurrection here. I find the arguments for it to be debunked personally
    pineappleman
    pineappleman
    I see. I think I can make you change your mind once it gets reopened, though.
    Thanks
    FantaRin_The_First
    Hey, hey, fanta here. Sup. I did yet another userblog, Clover. Here. Thankfully, it isn't from the same series that I typically pester you with, but is a recalc of a calc from a different series altogether. Found somebody that might increased the result of the calc and upgrade a few characters (essentially found a better picture for pixel scaling), so decided to make a recalc, fyi, xD. Oh, and it is a m^3 * (Frag) J/cc calc, btw. Anyways, thanks for your time as always.
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    Your message doesn't have a "hey hey, Fanta here" in it, this feels wrong
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Order has been restored. Also, thanks for reminding me about the hollowness. Accounted for it now.
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    Not sure what your current stance on this calc is, but here is what @Psychomaster35 says:

    If it was an energy based attack that you would deflect, then it would be viable for you to scale to that energy blast’s AP. But a physical object before it explodes? Definitely not, so you would need to calculate the weight of the bomb before getting the KE of yourself deflecting it.
    Click to expand...
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    Not sure what your current stance on this calc is, but here is what @Psychomaster35 says:

    If it was an energy based attack that you would deflect, then it would be viable for you to scale to that energy blast’s AP. But a physical object before it explodes? Definitely not, so you would need to calculate the weight of the bomb before getting the KE of yourself deflecting it.
    Click to expand...
    FantaRin_The_First
    Clover, I chose you. The series I support recently got a major announcement is getting an english translation for its "second part", which hints of a possible anime adapation in the future, so it inspired me to calc-out a few feats I ignored in this userblog. That is it. Pretty simple, and no pixel scaling cuz novel feats. That's all.

    ... Also... Hey, hey, fanta here.
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Bump de bump.

    Also, also... Clover, I got a question that is more important than the userblog... How does a verse qualify for a universe energy system? I know BC has one, and you are a supporter/important person for its CRTs, so figured it was best to ask ya. Do you just need direct confirmation that "more magic = more physical power" or is it much more complex then that?
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Bump le bump.
    FantaRin_The_First
    Fanta here, hey, hey. I got a calc that I am hoping you will look at, Clover. Essentially, it is a cloud calc and KE calc for the two "greatest" feats of AP/Dura in Midway Era's Mortal Kombat and is needed for a CRT that has been going on since 2021, xD.
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Yo, Clover. I need your help for a thing. Basically, Dale has looked at my userblog and gave the okay of the KE calc, but he isn't sure of the thickness of the clouds in the cloud calc (and wants me to get the thickness via pixel scaling) and I want you to take a glance at the cloud calc to see if you share the same opinion, moreso, cuz it is probably better to ask a unrelated third-party for smth like this
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    I agree with him. Looking at the pic you're using, you can very reasonably pixel scale the cloud's thickness
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Thanks for your help, Clover.
    FantaRin_The_First
    Hey, hey, Clover. I need to borrow your brain for a bit to answer three scaling question (since I know you've a bit of experience in this department).

    Q1... if Character C a "transformation" that has an unknown multiplier but they are explicitly comparable to a Character B who is 2x more powerful than Character A, would this mean Character C is entitled to the same 2x multiplier?

    Q2... if a Character E's power is added onto Character D's power and it is explicitly stated that E and D's power are on the same "level", would this mean a 2x multiplier.

    Q3... If Character F has a transformation that is stated to be above a 10x power up, would this mean the transformation significantly upscales from that 10x powerup (and would thus imply that power up is, at the very least, a 10x boost over that 10x power up)?

    Apologies for the inconvenience, btw. Before you ask. I am just picking random numbers at random, xD.
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    Q1: Our multiplier standards are pretty strict. In that specific instance, Character C's transformation would be comparable to Character B, but that doesn't necessarily mean Character C's transformation will always be a 2x multiplier without further evidence.

    Q2: Yes, we do this pretty often. It's not explicitly a 2x multiplier, more of a "1 + 1 = 2" scenario

    Q3: If Character F's transformation is specifically stated to be a power-up above that 10x power-up, the transformation would have a multiplier of at least 10x the user's base form. It wouldn't be a 10x boost on top of the initial 10x boost, no, it'd just be a superior boost to the 10x one to an unquantifiable degree.
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Thanks, Clover!

    ... Might as well ask one more question.

    Q4 - if Character H, I and K are all required to work together to beat Character G, and this endeavour took several hours in-verse and character A has a bad habit of CIS of holding power their power (and was just fighting to hold them back as long as possible), would this mean H, I and K scale to 1/3 of G's rating due to all of them needing to work together to beat G or would they just heavily downscale to G?

    And that's all. Thanks for your time.
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    They'd heavily downscale. The only way they'd scale to 1/3 of G's rating is if G withstood a combined attack from all three of them.
    DivineAura44
    I agree that Gin and Fuji had similar levels of distastefulness in that thread but please don't make reports out of spite 🙏
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    DivineAura44
    DivineAura44
    👍 Well I mean that's completely fine then but the way you worded it makes it sound like you wouldn't have reported Fuji if it wasn't for Gin's report. I gotta ask, does this mean you believe Gin deserves his punishment?
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    If my wording gave that impression, I apologize. And yes, I believe the warning was warranted. As I said, both sides need to back off each other
    DivineAura44
    DivineAura44
    Gotcha, that's fair. I honestly think they should admit they love each other and stop being hostile but 🤷‍♀🤷
    FantaRin_The_First
    Hey, hey, fanta here, Clover. I suppose y'know the drill, but this time... I am trying my hand in those movement/perception time calcs I've seen going around as seen here in this userblog... It's also accompanied with an extra calc that is basically just a person jumping 30m into the air and getting LS out of it - since if the movement/perception time calc is wrong, I at least have one calc that is accepted, xD.
    Le'garde273
    May i know why in your current accepted scalling, yuno and sacred power lucius doesn't include to moon lv like asta and ichika? I mean doesn't they also one of current strongest god tier
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    Unfortunately there's nothing concrete for them at the moment. Yuno and Lucius don't have any direct scaling to Asta/Ichika's strongest forms combined with Zetten, though I imagine when Asta fights Lucius, he'll get some 5-C scaling
    Le'garde273
    Le'garde273
    Bit weird to me when thinking it in narrative way, especially lucius was a last boss villain. But i guess it just about the time to them, to eventually get the scalling.

    Thanks for answering
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