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CloverDragon03

CloverDragon03

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  • I like Dizzy Guilty Gear the normal amount
    FantaRin_The_First
    Hey, hey, fanta here. This is worth a shot... Basically, I have this userblog calc about a cloud KE feat and I asked KLOL to look at it but they essentially said to get somebody else to look at it, so... Can you give it a go? Isn't complex or anything, just basic and simple cloud KE stuff with just as simple pixel-scaling.
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Welp, I am here once more to shamelessly ask for you to eval this pixel-scaled airburst explosion calc as well. To essentially just cover all bases.
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Replied.
    Arkenis
    Your calc for The Earl in the heat part makes it as he's destroying a massive structure of granite, I am essentially doing the same in this calc for random cities but just doing vap, is this accurate or am I supposed to include the heat calculation as well?
    Passersby
    hello, hope you're doing fine

    since the ground is shining and the edges are charred black can you kindly tell me if this counts as melting?

    zns10rO.png


    thanks for your time
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    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    I don't think this is melting. There's a difference between melting and burning, and the latter is what I think is happening here. Melting requires the affected area to be liquified to an extent, which I don't see. Charred, black edges are far from enough.
    Passersby
    Passersby
    aight, thanks for your input, i tought it was melting due to the weirdly shining ground and The fact that the edges have scorch marks since they're furthest points away from the source of the burning which would make them down the fastest

    can you kindly tell me which end is safe to use here then?

    sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your time
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    I see small fragments here so I'd use violent fragmentation
    Spinoirr
    Can you calculate this feat that has been on the profiles for so long without a calc

    Basically Victor is in space and he comes crashing back down to the ground after launching his hand and regenerating
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    The angle looks super weird, I'm really not sure how I'd calc this. Best you could do is use the distance from Earth to space (about 100 km) and use an appropriate timeframe (5 seconds makes sense to me, it seemed very quick). Your result would be 20 km/s or 20000 m/s, which is Mach 58.31 (High Hypersonic+)
    Spinoirr
    Spinoirr
    Currently it's listed on the profile as "Massively Hypersonic Attack Speed" with that scan

    So need to add that to a blog so that can be corrected and replaced
    Edutyn
    Good morning, afternoon, or evening, honorable gentleman or lady. I was coming to ask if I could have the honor of seeing your beautiful presence in this CRT.
    FantaRin_The_First
    Hey, hey, fanta here. I'm looking to add a mobile gacha game-verse called Blue Archive to the wiki but to do that I need calcs for the charas, so... I made a few. Here is one. To sum its contexts up, a giant kaiju caused a mid-air explosion thus I calced it out to get its AP, plus, I made a GPE calc based on a guesstimate on the kaiju's height to get another AP/Dura result. That's all. Bai, Clover!
    LuffyRuffy46307
    Well, you said you didn't want the verse to be downgraded from 2-C, it's happening now, lol

    vsbattles.com

    Uncompositing the Dragon Ball Cosmology

    I've been personally conflicted about this topic (Dragon Ball Super and GT sharing the same overarching cosmology/multiverse) for a while and decided to go for a downgrade on premises I think are faulty. I'll address what's in the verse page for my argument. The DBZ Anime is also accepted as...
    vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
    ShadowSythez
    Hey. Recently I made a thread on the speed calculations on the 'attack on titan' page. I got sent by KLOL and was wondering if you could drop your input, would be much appreciated.
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    Not sure what your current stance on this calc is, but here is what @Psychomaster35 says:

    If it was an energy based attack that you would deflect, then it would be viable for you to scale to that energy blast’s AP. But a physical object before it explodes? Definitely not, so you would need to calculate the weight of the bomb before getting the KE of yourself deflecting it.
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    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    Okay I'm gonna put a moratorium on this now because you've messaged me like 5 different times about it now: I don't care about the calc anymore. I think Goku scales to it, but for different reasons. Cool? Cool.
    FantaRin_The_First
    Hey, hey, fanta here. Welp, I made a cloud calc in this userblog, Clover. I promise ya, it is only one calc and no bonus or extra calcs attached to it. Very simple and whatnot. I also have to redo some old cloud calcs since they were made prior to the cloud mass calculator but from my own rough calcs, the results barely change from it so no rush, lol. Hope that isn't a bother, Clover. xD.
    pineappleman
    Hello Clover, please reopen this thread that you've closed. https://vsbattles.com/threads/dbs-goku-hax-revision.156802/
    I was midway through writing a response when it was speed-closed, no time was given for argument. Damage claimed that it was okay since the thread was 48 hours long, but the arguments he had made are not even 12 hours old. I can assure you that nothing has been 'debunked', there is still room for discussion.
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    I didn't close it, I don't have that authority. Talk to Damage about that, he's the one that closed it. Also, the 48 hours thing depends on how old the thread is from its first post.

    And lastly I really don't see what discussion there is to be had. There's no Regeneration or Resurrection here. I find the arguments for it to be debunked personally
    pineappleman
    pineappleman
    I see. I think I can make you change your mind once it gets reopened, though.
    Thanks
    FantaRin_The_First
    Hey, hey, fanta here. Sup. I did yet another userblog, Clover. Here. Thankfully, it isn't from the same series that I typically pester you with, but is a recalc of a calc from a different series altogether. Found somebody that might increased the result of the calc and upgrade a few characters (essentially found a better picture for pixel scaling), so decided to make a recalc, fyi, xD. Oh, and it is a m^3 * (Frag) J/cc calc, btw. Anyways, thanks for your time as always.
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    Your message doesn't have a "hey hey, Fanta here" in it, this feels wrong
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Order has been restored. Also, thanks for reminding me about the hollowness. Accounted for it now.
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    Not sure what your current stance on this calc is, but here is what @Psychomaster35 says:

    If it was an energy based attack that you would deflect, then it would be viable for you to scale to that energy blast’s AP. But a physical object before it explodes? Definitely not, so you would need to calculate the weight of the bomb before getting the KE of yourself deflecting it.
    Click to expand...
    Hagane_no_Saiyajin
    Not sure what your current stance on this calc is, but here is what @Psychomaster35 says:

    If it was an energy based attack that you would deflect, then it would be viable for you to scale to that energy blast’s AP. But a physical object before it explodes? Definitely not, so you would need to calculate the weight of the bomb before getting the KE of yourself deflecting it.
    Click to expand...
    FantaRin_The_First
    Clover, I chose you. The series I support recently got a major announcement is getting an english translation for its "second part", which hints of a possible anime adapation in the future, so it inspired me to calc-out a few feats I ignored in this userblog. That is it. Pretty simple, and no pixel scaling cuz novel feats. That's all.

    ... Also... Hey, hey, fanta here.
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Bump de bump.

    Also, also... Clover, I got a question that is more important than the userblog... How does a verse qualify for a universe energy system? I know BC has one, and you are a supporter/important person for its CRTs, so figured it was best to ask ya. Do you just need direct confirmation that "more magic = more physical power" or is it much more complex then that?
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Bump le bump.
    FantaRin_The_First
    Fanta here, hey, hey. I got a calc that I am hoping you will look at, Clover. Essentially, it is a cloud calc and KE calc for the two "greatest" feats of AP/Dura in Midway Era's Mortal Kombat and is needed for a CRT that has been going on since 2021, xD.
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Yo, Clover. I need your help for a thing. Basically, Dale has looked at my userblog and gave the okay of the KE calc, but he isn't sure of the thickness of the clouds in the cloud calc (and wants me to get the thickness via pixel scaling) and I want you to take a glance at the cloud calc to see if you share the same opinion, moreso, cuz it is probably better to ask a unrelated third-party for smth like this
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    I agree with him. Looking at the pic you're using, you can very reasonably pixel scale the cloud's thickness
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Thanks for your help, Clover.
    FantaRin_The_First
    Hey, hey, Clover. I need to borrow your brain for a bit to answer three scaling question (since I know you've a bit of experience in this department).

    Q1... if Character C a "transformation" that has an unknown multiplier but they are explicitly comparable to a Character B who is 2x more powerful than Character A, would this mean Character C is entitled to the same 2x multiplier?

    Q2... if a Character E's power is added onto Character D's power and it is explicitly stated that E and D's power are on the same "level", would this mean a 2x multiplier.

    Q3... If Character F has a transformation that is stated to be above a 10x power up, would this mean the transformation significantly upscales from that 10x powerup (and would thus imply that power up is, at the very least, a 10x boost over that 10x power up)?

    Apologies for the inconvenience, btw. Before you ask. I am just picking random numbers at random, xD.
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    Q1: Our multiplier standards are pretty strict. In that specific instance, Character C's transformation would be comparable to Character B, but that doesn't necessarily mean Character C's transformation will always be a 2x multiplier without further evidence.

    Q2: Yes, we do this pretty often. It's not explicitly a 2x multiplier, more of a "1 + 1 = 2" scenario

    Q3: If Character F's transformation is specifically stated to be a power-up above that 10x power-up, the transformation would have a multiplier of at least 10x the user's base form. It wouldn't be a 10x boost on top of the initial 10x boost, no, it'd just be a superior boost to the 10x one to an unquantifiable degree.
    FantaRin_The_First
    FantaRin_The_First
    Thanks, Clover!

    ... Might as well ask one more question.

    Q4 - if Character H, I and K are all required to work together to beat Character G, and this endeavour took several hours in-verse and character A has a bad habit of CIS of holding power their power (and was just fighting to hold them back as long as possible), would this mean H, I and K scale to 1/3 of G's rating due to all of them needing to work together to beat G or would they just heavily downscale to G?

    And that's all. Thanks for your time.
    CloverDragon03
    CloverDragon03
    They'd heavily downscale. The only way they'd scale to 1/3 of G's rating is if G withstood a combined attack from all three of them.
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